The Official LANCE ARMSTRONG Thread 2010-2011

[Denkoff]

Le tour de'nis Menchov 2010 ! ! !

 

[Berzin]

Now I know why televangelists make so much money telling people what they want to hear.

Because it sells.

 

[Angliru]

Hows it proven he's a complete fraud? Who should believe the whole Landis story? The LA haters? I believe 30% is true, which makes him just the same like any cyclist that wants to compete at the highest level imo...

Isn't odd that someone that claims to want a clean sport is found to be complaining about the frequency and inopportune times of his own impromptu tests on a very regular basis? So he wants the sport to be clean but just don't bother to test him because it's too much of an inconvenience for him?

 

[alberto.legstrong]

these circular 'what evidence?' retorts are just agony. There is no effort at honest engagement.

If your goal is to gradually shut down the forum, you are on target and ahead of schedule.

It's sad to say, but ignoring this manure and its excretors is the best way to preserve discussion for those who want honest engagement.

I refuse to reply directly to those who post the manure, but it's pretty obvious which ones are the offenders.

 

[peacefultribe]

LA seems to get an ego boost when he manipulates the media and fans for his gain. It was kind of entertaining during the days when it was done to fool the competition in a race, and keep us all guessing. It seems like he does it now just to see people jump. It's almost as though he toys with his fans. He loves to see them react to his every tweet and quote. It's sad to see people being used.

 

[Oldman]

Quote from Chris Horner:


Horner was surprisingly left off Astana’s Tour squad last year, but he fully expects to line up in Rotterdam as part of RadioShack’s starting nine.

And Horner is very clear about what his role will be within the team: help Lance Armstrong win another Tour crown.

“When we arrive at the Tour, Lance knows I am going to be his guardian angel. When it comes to the mountains, I will be there for Lance,” Horner told VeloNews. “I get along with Lance really well. Lance knows that I know what my job is. There is no chance where I wouldn’t work for someone on the team. Everyone on this team knows it.”

Read more: http://velonews.competitor.com/2010...-lance’s-guardian-angel’_120696#ixzz0qZ3EyYfm

I've had admiration for Horner's abilities for some time but pretty much knew he had stepped into Professional Preparation along time ago. This statement is a naked appeal to be included in the Tour lineup. Would this be a smart thing to do? Anyone there is going to get caught up in whatever drama unfolds from Landis' disclosures.

 

[Publicus]

Quote from Chris Horner:


Horner was surprisingly left off Astana’s Tour squad last year, but he fully expects to line up in Rotterdam as part of RadioShack’s starting nine.

And Horner is very clear about what his role will be within the team: help Lance Armstrong win another Tour crown.

“When we arrive at the Tour, Lance knows I am going to be his guardian angel. When it comes to the mountains, I will be there for Lance,” Horner told VeloNews. “I get along with Lance really well. Lance knows that I know what my job is. There is no chance where I wouldn’t work for someone on the team. Everyone on this team knows it.”

Read more: http://velonews.competitor.com/2010...-lance’s-guardian-angel’_120696#ixzz0qZ3EyYfm

I've had admiration for Horner's abilities for some time but pretty much knew he had stepped into Professional Preparation along time ago. This statement is a naked appeal to be included in the Tour lineup. Would this be a smart thing to do? Anyone there is going to get caught up in whatever drama unfolds from Landis' disclosures.

With Zubeldia out of the Tour, it seems like an unnecessary amount of buttocks kissing. It's not like Machado is getting that slot.

 

[thehog]

With Zubeldia out of the Tour, it seems like an unnecessary amount of buttocks kissing. It's not like Machado is getting that slot.

Horner is thanking his lucky stars he never rode on Postal. He's the only one not going to jail.

 

[BroDeal]

With Zubeldia out of the Tour, it seems like an unnecessary amount of buttocks kissing. It's not like Machado is getting that slot.

I think it is sad that a rider as experienced and capable as Horner has been reduced to begging for a slot on the Tour squad not by pointing to his form and accomplishments for the year but by promising to be Armstrong's toady.

 

[flicker]

I think it is sad that a rider as experienced and capable as Horner has been reduced to begging for a slot on the Tour squad not by pointing to his form and accomplishments for the year but by promising to be Armstrong's toady.

In this economy a job is a job. I do not think there are a whole lot of high paying positions for 38 year old top tier cyclists.
That is my guess as I am an outider.
Guy I knew raced in Italy. He had a high placing in Montreal I do not know if it was the worlds or the olympics. He joined a team in Italy(pro). In top stage races the DS held my friend the American back in the big races. My friend told me he was way better than the Italian star. My friend quit cycling, went to college got a career.

 

[offbyone]

No surprise, Team radioshack is loaded with talent, especially talented domestiques. Lots of guys trying to fit into 9 spots. There is nothing more to it than that.
Zubeldia's tour is now in question which will probably help Horner's chances.

 

[alberto.legstrong]

In this economy a job is a job. I do not think there are a whole lot of high paying positions for 38 year old top tier cyclists.
That is my guess as I am an outider.
Guy I knew raced in Italy. He had a high placing in Montreal I do not know if it was the worlds or the olympics. He joined a team in Italy(pro). In top stage races the DS held my friend the American back in the big races. My friend told me he was way better than the Italian star. My friend quit cycling, went to college got a career.

Your friend learned many valuable lessons doing a wonderful (albeit lowly paid) sport and then came out the other end in one piece and probably has an advantage in his career over his counterparts.

not many get to say they chased their dream. he can.

 

[alberto.legstrong]

sorry if this is the wrong thread....

...what is RS's expected lineup for the tdf ? (serious question)

1. Lance - definitely
2?
3?
4?
5?
6?
7?
8?
9?

In a not so serious vein, we have been overrun with Lance apologists as of late, I'd like to hear back from them FIRST. It seems their sum knowledge of protour cycling is one person, yet they pontificate endlessly.

 

[Publicus]

...what is RS's expected lineup for the tdf ? (serious question)

1. Lance - definitely
2? Levi
3? Kloden
4? Popovych
5? Paulhino
6? Horner
7? Rast
8?
9?

In a not so serious vein, we have been overrun with Lance apologists as of late, I'd like to hear back from them FIRST. It seems their sum knowledge of protour cycling is one person, yet they pontificate endlessly.

See above.

 

[thehog]

See above.

Loaded with talent!

 

[Publicus]

Loaded with talent!

The loss of Haimar hurts them. I don't know that there is anyone in their lineup with the GT experience to replace him. And I think Rosseler (sp) was tipped to ride, but he broke his wrist a couple of weeks ago and is doubtful.

 

[thehog]

The loss of Haimar hurts them. I don't know that there is anyone in their lineup with the GT experience to replace him. And I think Rosseler (sp) was tipped to ride, but he broke his wrist a couple of weeks ago and is doubtful.

I'd put Jani in there as 8. Not a bad sqaud. Too bad their leader is ****e. They will suffer because of it.

 

[Oldman]

I'd put Jani in there as 8. Not a bad sqaud. Too bad their leader is ****e. They will suffer because of it.

The Dauphine Alpe stage will be interesting if Brat does well against Contador. If the media heat excludes LA, Levi from a finish (before reality does, anyway) he could be finally allowed to explore his long-touted potential. Is that too far-fetched?

 

[Publicus]

I'd put Jani in there as 8. Not a bad sqaud. Too bad their leader is ****e. They will suffer because of it.

D'oh! Forgot about JB.

 

[Publicus]

The Dauphine Alpe stage will be interesting if Brat does well against Contador. If the media heat excludes LA, Levi from a finish (before reality does, anyway) he could be finally allowed to explore his long-touted potential. Is that too far-fetched?

I'm not sure it means much. AC isn't 100%. Evans was hanging with him just fine last year at the Dauphine. Fast-forward 3 weeks and . . . well you saw what happened.

 

[alberto.legstrong]

the legacy continues

not too many takers on my question, it was either a stupid question or no one really has any better idea than the responses.

whatever.

but when i came back, i noticed the trek ad in the upper right corner saying ' the legacy continues'

I wonder to what extent lance alienates prospective buyers of whatever he is touting. I believe this is called 'q' in advertising circles, the overall positive response to a person. (In this case, I am asking if his q has taken a hit amongst the cognoscenti, or has he always been viewed by the hardcore about the same way he is now.)

Just a passing thought.

 

[Angliru]

See above.

By nature of your post, you are now identified as an Armstrong apologist. Welcome to the dark side.

 

[flicker]

Your friend learned many valuable lessons doing a wonderful (albeit lowly paid) sport and then came out the other end in one piece and probably has an advantage in his career over his counterparts.

not many get to say they chased their dream. he can.

Bummer is as successful as he is (and happy) the former world class climber can be dropped by me now. Obesity in the U. S. is a problem.

 

[alberto.legstrong]

Bummer is as successful as he is (and happy) the former world class climber can be dropped by me now. Obesity in the U. S. is a problem.

preaching to the choir brother. and i say that as part of the problem, not the solution

 

[CycloErgoSum]

Lance's "big, dumb empty face."

Thanks G. Carlin, RIP (although I think that's impossible).