The Official LANCE ARMSTRONG Thread 2010-2011

[Ryaguas]

DERPA DERPA hurpee durpee durf hurf blef.

Blef blef durf hurf Derpa derpa kork?

 

[Anonymous]

This really is not a thread to be reading when ive just woken up and havnt taken my medication.

Im now in that weird warpy void of confusion feeling lost and confused. Perhaps once ive woken up and the meds kick in this thread will be funny.

 

[tubularglue]

Contador will surpass, quite possibly

little by slowly

I find it odd
that Alberto consistently knocks em down, different teams, directors, programs.
and comforting

 

[Jamsque]

I vowed I would never post in this thread, but it seems the mods had different plans for me.

 

[Señor_Contador]

I think he is. I think it was unic in history, during his reign, Lance was the best climber of the world and the best time trialist. He was the absolute Gt rider. He has won 7 Tours during a period where savoldelli won the giro and aitor gonzales won the vuelta. The field in the tour was the most competitive ever.

Mercxx has been unable to win 6 Tours and was not very dominant in the mountains.

Idem for Hinault and he was litteraly humiliated by Fignon in 84.

IMO, only Coppi and maybe contador (if he improve his TT, but with Riis he has a chance) in the future can contest him this title.

Now, if you need to put down Eddie Merckx in order to prop up your idol... you've kinda drank the Cool-Aid my friend.

The Belgian is the best cyclist in the history of the sport P-E-R-I-O-D.

Lance riding against the most conpetitive riders in ages, him being über-dominant, et al, are all opinions.

That Eddie has won 11 GTs is a fact.

 

[the3verB]

Lans has won 7 TdF, it's also a fact.

 

[karlboss]

Lans has won 7 TdF, it's also a fact.

so purely on GT's 4 short.

 

[indurain666]

Lans has won 7 TdF, it's also a fact.

And what else? saying that a great champion like Merckx or Hinault is not as good as an one race wonder idiot like uniballer lance is just plain ignorant.

 

[El Imbatido]

Lans has won 7 TdF, it's also a fact.

Besides 11 GTs, Merckx also won:

7× Milan – San Remo
2× Ronde van Vlaanderen
3× Paris–Roubaix
5× Liège–Bastogne–Liège
2× Giro di Lombardia
2× Amstel Gold Race
3× La Flèche Wallonne
1× Paris–Brussels
3× Gent–Wevelgem

1× Tour de Suisse
2× Tour of Belgium
3× Paris–Nice
1× Tour de Romandie
1× Critérium du Dauphiné Libéré
1× Midi Libre
4× Tour of Sardinia

3× World championship

17 six-day races
3× European championship
7× Belgian madison championship

Thats a Fact

 

[reubenr]

Lans has won 7 TdF, it's also a fact.

Clemens was indicted today. Tomorrow, or the next day, it will be Lance. No matter how many grand tours he won, the 8th will be a tour behind bars.

 

[Seattleallstar]

No matter how much of Lance fanboy you must be, if you have any sense or know anything about cycling, you will have to admit Eddie Merckx is the best ever and looks to be the best of all times. Its not even like a Jack vs Tiger comparision in golf, there is no comparison to Merckx he is in a class all by himself. Lance is the best TDF rider ever and NO ONE will win 7 TDF's in a row again, with that said Lance dominated the most prestigious event in the sport and had no equal. Regrettably by time he got around to Contador he was only a shell of his former self which still dominates all cyclists alive with the exception of 1 or 3

 

[Angliru]

--SNIP--. Regrettably by time he got around to Contador he was only a shell of his former self which still dominates all cyclists alive with the exception of 1 or 3

He hasn't won jack since his return with the exception of a mountain bike race in the U.S. NO WINS IN EUROPE SINCE HIS RETURN. Nada. Hardly call that "still dominates all cyclists alive".

It could be argued that Indurain was at least his equal with 5 straight Tour wins coupled with 2 years that he won the Giro AND the Tour--in consecutive years! Plus Olympic and WC titles in the ITT included in his list of successes.

 

[Seattleallstar]

He hasn't won jack since his return with the exception of a mountain bike race in the U.S. NO WINS IN EUROPE SINCE HIS RETURN. Nada. Hardly call that "still dominates all cyclists alive".

It could be argued that Indurain was at least his equal with 5 straight Tour wins coupled with 2 years that he won the Giro AND the Tour--in consecutive years! Plus Olympic and WC titles in the ITT included in his list of successes.

3rd in 2009 TDF man

 

[BroDeal]

3rd in 2009 TDF man

That was the TdF that Vaughters said was soft pedaled. Even Wigans managed a top five. That says everything right there.

We saw this year what Armstrong is like without his special preparation. It was not impressive, not impressive at all.

 

[karlboss]

He hasn't won jack since his return with the exception of a mountain bike race in the U.S. NO WINS IN EUROPE SINCE HIS RETURN. Nada. Hardly call that "still dominates all cyclists alive".

It could be argued that Indurain was at least his equal with 5 straight Tour wins coupled with 2 years that he won the Giro AND the Tour--in consecutive years! Plus Olympic and WC titles in the ITT included in his list of successes.

do team classifications count?

 

[Cobblestoned]

That was the TdF that Vaughters said was soft pedaled. Even Wigans managed a top five. That says everything right there.

We saw this year what Armstrong is like without his special preparation. It was not impressive, not impressive at all.

Softpedal, because all the opponents where scared and after that Astana controlled the race.
Wiggans was not on form at this years Tour.

Armstrong still had a good preperation and some very good results, had a puncture at one of the most unfortunate moments and same goes for the crash, that really hurt and cost lots of energy and pain.
That says everything right there.


But of course Eddy ist the greatest of all times and will always be !

 

[Seattleallstar]

Lance hires Mark Fabiani

the man who tries to clean up the images of guilty people, SAY IT ISNT SO LANCE!

 

[LaBici]

the man who tries to clean up the images of guilty people, SAY IT ISNT SO LANCE!

facts speak for themselves ;-)

LA needs Fabiani for something..

 

[Maxiton]

Besides 11 GTs, Merckx also won:

7× Milan – San Remo
2× Ronde van Vlaanderen
3× Paris–Roubaix
5× Liège–Bastogne–Liège
2× Giro di Lombardia
2× Amstel Gold Race
3× La Flèche Wallonne
1× Paris–Brussels
3× Gent–Wevelgem

1× Tour de Suisse
2× Tour of Belgium
3× Paris–Nice
1× Tour de Romandie
1× Critérium du Dauphiné Libéré
1× Midi Libre
4× Tour of Sardinia

3× World championship

17 six-day races
3× European championship
7× Belgian madison championship

Thats a Fact

You forgot the Hour Record

 

[Mellow Velo]

Armstrong still had a good preperation and some very good results, had a puncture at one of the most unfortunate moments and same goes for the crash, that really hurt and cost lots of energy and pain.
That says everything right there.
But of course Eddy ist the greatest of all times and will always be !

No he didn't. Selective dementia kicking in again?
He prep was severely disrupted, through even more crashes and an upset stomach, which led to him having to add Luxembourg to his programme.

What are these very good results you speak of?
I take it you are referring to Switzerland, where he finished 44th in the prologue, 11th in the ITT and 7th in the only serious mountain stage, which somehow led to him getting 2nd overall.

I recall fanboys getting all excited about that one and writing off Andy Schleck's chances at the same time, because he couldn't stay with Lance on the big climb. Even the fanboys know why, now.
When Lance finally got to riding, everybody else had gone into training mode.

 

[Cobblestoned]

No he didn't. Selective dementia kicking in again?
He prep was severely disrupted, through even more crashes and an upset stomach, which led to him having to add Luxembourg to his programme.

What are these very good results you speak of?
I take it you are referring to Switzerland, where he finished 44th in the prologue, 11th in the ITT and 7th in the only serious mountain stage, which somehow led to him getting 2nd overall.

I recall fanboys getting all excited about that one and writing off Andy Schleck's chances at the same time, because he couldn't stay with Lance on the big climb. Even the fanboys know why, now.
When Lance finally got to riding, everybody else had gone into training mode.

Really sounds like a post of a selective hater, but you even noticed Luxemburg.
How do handle the 4th in the prolog. I think you will find some selective reasons for that, too. Should have been a storm that blew him there.
100 % sure you will find something to talk that one down, too.
And I think you will never notice the great fighting perfomance on that cobbled stage. Lance out of the dust - great.
But just go on....
What about the facts you cutted out of my post. Am I at least right there, because you cut it out ?

 

[Mellow Velo]

The reason I cut out your "response" to the Astana soft pedalling in 2009 suggestion, is because it has nothing to do with the claim that he had prepared well in 2010.
If you have an issue with the soft pedalling allegation, take it up with JV.
I am undecided on the point.

Does 4th in the PL count as preparation? Certainly a good result, but IMO, outside the scope of your claim.

 

[Cobblestoned]

The reason I cut out your "response" to the Astana soft pedalling in 2009 suggestion, is because it has nothing to do with the claim that he had prepared well in 2010.
If you have an issue with the soft pedalling allegation, take it up with JV.
I am undecided on the point.

Does 4th in the PL count as preparation? Certainly a good result, but IMO, outside the scope of your claim.

A now I understand. You are just riding the details now and didn´t understand.
Very interesting discussion.
Perhaps you should have a look and just read, what preperation this BroDeal meant. I was referring to that.
But after that the fairy tale of: "Look, there you see what a clean Armstrong is worth for. " is started.
4th Prolog is a result - not a preperation.

 

[Angliru]

3rd in 2009 TDF man

A "win" for me is crossing the line first or having the best time in a ITT. Making the podium's 3rd step in a stage race indicates there were 2 riders ahead of you in the end, with the one on the first step the "winner". History will not show that Armstrong was the "winner" of the 2009 Tour now will it?

 

[Angliru]

do team classifications count?

If you want to aim low I guess that is the best one can scrape together for him.