The Official Moser is the new Moser Thread

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I think they're both signed throughout 2014, aren't they?
No idea to be honest, I just assumed Moser was on the traditional 2 year neo-pro contract. Was he renewed last year?
 
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I hope we will finally have a guy who will actually win races and not finish 2nd/3rd/4th etc :p...i.e. in the big one day races.
 
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spalco said:
I doubt they are going to sweep the GT classements. ;)
Moser could. He always said he wants to be a GT guy. It's a mistake imho, but let's wait and see.
 
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Eshnar said:
Moser could. He always said he wants to be a GT guy. It's a mistake imho, but let's wait and see.

Despite his relatively low weight he's a strong rouleur and sprinter, he has the potential of being one of the best all-rounders. Hills, cobbles, mountain passes, time trials, one day he may be able to handle them all very well.
 
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maltiv said:
Moser and Sagan might just dominate cycling completely this season.

That duo needs to be split up if anyone else wants to win a race! :p And they probably will be, as I doubt Cannondale has got the money to keep Moser.

why not? Cannondale's revenue is almost as big as specialized, while specialized is sponsoring multiple teams. Cannodale simply need another title sponsor, they can easily keep both of them.
 

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What do you people here think what should Moser concentrate on in his career?
What should he develop in?
Personally, I think he's GT potential (multiple, various...), but it would be waste of talent to neglect the Classics.
Where's his limit in the Classics?
 
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serfla said:
What do you people here think what should Moser concentrate on in his career?
What should he develop in?
Personally, I think he's GT potential (multiple, various...), but it would be waste of talent to neglect the Classics.
Where's his limit in the Classics?

Totaly unproven on cobbles. I do think he can be very good in RVV, I'm more sceptical about P/R though.


As for GT, I don't know. We'll see what he can do next week in T/A. I'd prefer him to focus on classics for now, while gaining some experience in GT riding (his debut will be in the Tour). He has never been shy about his GT ambitions.
 

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SafeBet said:
Totaly unproven on cobbles. I do think he can be very good in RVV, I'm more sceptical about P/R though.


As for GT, I don't know. We'll see what he can do next week in T/A. I'd prefer him to focus on classics for now, while gaining some experience in GT riding (his debut will be in the Tour). He has never been shy about his GT ambitions.
I completely agree about the cobbles. Roubaix is where I would put his limit.
I have huge faith in his GT potential. He's only 22, so has 3-4 years to develop and 5-10 to fight for the top, while still improving.
Focus on the Classics is O.K. for the moment, but the focus in his peak years is what I'm interested in.
Focusing on one aspect of the two would be a shame.
 
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Moser probably would stay at Cannondale though- unless lured by big money. They still have an Italian base, squad... and the possibility of an Italian sponsor coming on.
 
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He should join Lampre. Bartoli is coach there. Moser should concentrate on the classics and no better man than Bartoli to learn from.
 
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lampre is the worst team to go.
very badly organized, changing coaching staff every year without clear reasons.
bartoli has no experience as coach.
lampre is deeply involved in doping scandals ( mantova, roberti's inquiry...)
lampre is ruled by giuseppe saronni.
can you see a moser under the guidance of saronni?

probably is not your fault, you are too young if you can only imagine that saronni can be the the chief of a moser....:)
 
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profff said:
lampre is the worst team to go.
very badly organized, changing coaching staff every year without clear reasons.
bartoli has no experience as coach.
lampre is deeply involved in doping scandals ( mantova, roberti's inquiry...)
lampre is ruled by giuseppe saronni.
can you see a moser under the guidance of saronni?

probably is not your fault, you are too young if you can only imagine that saronni can be the the chief of a moser....:)

Saronini is not with Lampre anymore.
 
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profff said:
bartoli has no experience as coach.

Actually that's not really true. He works for Sport Service Lunata (something comparable to the Mapei Center...only less important), and he's been training many amateurs during the last years.
He knows what has to be done.

But I agree: Lampre is the worst choice ever :p
 
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the asian said:
Saronini is not with Lampre anymore.

are you joking?
damiani is not with lampre and that is meaningful
saronni is still the boss

about bartoli's experience as a coach, he did not follow any special study or qualification for coaching
bartoli himself said that his university was the road and that he relays on his experience as a pro rider.
imho , his pro career took place in the worst years of cycling history in a period ( and in teams) deeply related with the use of PED. obviously that is not bartoli' s fault , but just a matter of fact. bartoli was a great champion with great class and style and i liked him very much , but i do not think he is the right choice to grow a thoroughbred like moserino today.
and coaching sometuscany amateurs is not a pedigree for a coaching the greatest italian hope in cycling.
in any case i do not want to enter in subject partially clinic related , but i do think that today cycling, especially italian cycling needs clear choices.-
i want to add that i consider bartoli intelligent and clever person and i am sure he will become probably a great coach, but today he is not qualified enough to withstand a duty as coaching a pro team.

the lunate center was estabilished 1 year ago and has no curriculum or experience to be compared to mapei center..

please just read the worlds of roberto damiani, one of the most considered ds on cycling pro blog about the inconsistent approach of lampre to coaching cyclists: you will understand the reason of my words.
 
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profff said:
are you joking?
damiani is not with lampre and that is meaningful
saronni is still the boss

about bartoli's experience as a coach, he did not follow any special study or qualification for coaching
bartoli himself said that his university was the road and that he relays on his experience as a pro rider.
imho , his pro career took place in the worst years of cycling history in a period ( and in teams) deeply related with the use of PED. obviously that is not bartoli' s fault , but just a matter of fact. bartoli was a great champion with great class and style and i liked him very much , but i do not think he is the right choice to grow a thoroughbred like moserino today.
and coaching sometuscany amateurs is not a pedigree for a coaching the greatest italian hope in cycling.
in any case i do not want to enter in subject partially clinic related , but i do think that today cycling, especially italian cycling needs clear choices.-
i want to add that i consider bartoli intelligent and clever person and i am sure he will become probably a great coach, but today he is not qualified enough to withstand a duty as coaching a pro team.

the lunate center was estabilished 1 year ago and has no curriculum or experience to be compared to mapei center..

please just read the worlds of roberto damiani, one of the most considered ds on cycling pro blog about the inconsistent approach of lampre to coaching cyclists: you will understand the reason of my words.
Very good post, i agree with everything.
 
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so, what do you expect from Moser in this TA? He'll go for the overall...
 
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Eshnar said:
so, what do you expect from Moser in this TA? He'll go for the overall...

If he top 10 this one it would be something else.

How is he with the long climbs? (prato di tivo)
 
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Miburo said:
If he top 10 this one it would be something else.

How is he with the long climbs? (prato di tivo)
that's the point. We have no idea. Last year he was the best young guy on Verbier, but who knows how he will go on a long climb.