Teams & Riders The official Wilco Kelderman is the new Merckx-thread

[Havetts]

Hmmm.. Better an arrogant Amsterdammer (Thomas Dekker excepted) than someone from Limbabwe

As a Rotterdammer I have to say no to both 020 and Limboland.

 

[El Pistolero]

Wilco is currently racing in Alsace where he won last year. Not much hope in repeating that since this is the first race since a rest period, and unlike last year he is now nowhere near top form.

Still, he finished the first difficult stage (2nd stage), won by Niels Albert btw (!), in the first group of 40 riders.

Cool, would love to see him giving the road a serious try. Very charismatic as well unlike VDB2

Can't wait till Cyclocross season begins again.

 

[boomcie]

The degree of a country's civilization does not depend upon the extent of its land; the intelligence of its people does not depend upon the extend of its territory- Sofu Kohei Berugikoku-shi

Country, size, intelligence, something something. - Random Asian name that makes it all sound authoritative.

What are you trying to say El Pistolet? This quote sounds way too obvious and unchallenging to me...

Did you make it up yourself?

 

[El Pistolero]

Country, size, intelligence, something something. - Random Asian name that makes it all sound authoritative.

What are you trying to say El Pistolet? This quote sounds way too obvious and unchallenging to me...

Did you make it up yourself?

Nah, was a quote in a book of the history of the low countries I had to learn for an exam. Don't know who the hell that Jappo is.

 

[l.Harm]

As a Rotterdammer I have to say no to both 020 and Limboland.

We can talk.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

Niels Albert is a champ. But I always like seeing cx guys win

@harvetts

Feyenoord?

 

[Tuarts]

How is this thread on 4 pages already? This is meant to be an anglophone hype forum.

On another note, we have plenty of Belgian posters - why is there hardly any hype about their youngsters?

 

[boomcie]

How is this thread on 4 pages already? This is meant to be an anglophone hype forum.

On another note, we have plenty of Belgian posters - why is there hardly any hype about their youngsters?

Cause we're so incredibly modest
And because we actually have good pros.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

They simply have non-comparable talent

edit; but more likely we dutch have only 'hope' that our youth will provide, where Belgium (maybe not GC wise) have no shortage of stars as it is.
Maybe if we had gilbert, Boonen etc the last few years it would be different

 

[theyoungest]

They simply have non-comparable talent

edit; but more likely we dutch have only 'hope' that our youth will provide, where Belgium (maybe not GC wise) have no shortage of stars as it is.
Maybe if we had gilbert, Boonen etc the last few years it would be different

They were lacking a bit in that respect, so they decided to turn two average riders (VDB2 and Vanendert) into world class climbers

 

[l.Harm]

Kelderman is going to own in the Tour de Alsace next hour. Anybody a stream?

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Not a chance, he's not in top shape at the moment. This is the first race after a training period.
I think Albert will win

Kelderman tries to peak in Avenir I think

 

[l.Harm]

No Albert is already dropped.

 

[FF'Wilco]

Camano, Pinot, Novikov and Teychenne should be Wilco's main rivals, Even if hes not in the best shape yet he may still win it. Watch out for the guy from Eritrea: Berhane.

Edit:

Pinot won.

1. Pinot
2. Novikov
3. Mederel
4. Converset

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Forget Albert indeed. He has been dropped horribly

 

[theyoungest]

Pinot wins ahead of Novikov. Both really young as well...

Can't you change the ridiculous title of this thread? Kelderman is just one of a great wave of climbing talents coming up right now.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

If Pinot still has his Dauphine shape he should be the one to follow.
Novikov is a good call too.

edit: appearently I'm behind

1 Pinot
2 Novikov
3 Mederel

edit2:
W1lcokelderman Wilco Kelderman
Vandaag laatste etappe tour alsace, ging niet super. Vorm moet er nog aankomen. Was gepland richting tour de l'avenir.

"Last stage Tour d'Alsace, didn't go super. Form has yet to come. Was planned for the Tour l'Avenir."

 

[Spine Concept]

Wilco has not had great legs during the course of this race according to the team manager Piet Kuijs. However, that is understandable seeing as this race is more of a pit stop en route towards his real targets this year - Tour de l'Ain and more importantly the Tour l'Avenir. Last year he soloed in this - or a similar - stage and completed a coup to take the stage win and the general classification. I'm more intrigued at his performance in the aforementioned targeted stage races.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Me too, but a shame Avenir is still more than a month away!
Luckily there's Poland, ENECO and Vuelta to fill the gap

 

[theyoungest]

Wilco has not had great legs during the course of this race according to the team manager Piet Kuijs. However, that is understandable seeing as this race is more of a pit stop en route towards his real targets this year - Tour de l'Ain and more importantly the Tour l'Avenir. Last year he soloed in this - or a similar - stage and completed a coup to take the stage win and the general classification. I'm more intrigued at his performance in the aforementioned targeted stage races.

I'm sure Thibaut Pinot didn't target this race either

 

[Spine Concept]

Me too, but a shame Avenir is still more than a month away!
Luckily there's Poland, ENECO and Vuelta to fill the gap

HA! Indeed. Those races in between will have to suffice I guess.

I'm sure Thibaut Pinot didn't target this race either

I cannot say with certainty in what form Pinot is in at the moment, but it's not a surprise that he does well here, he's a great talent like that. I would love to see him and Wilco in top form though, in order to make a fair gauge.

 

[theyoungest]

I cannot say with certainty in what form Pinot is in at the moment, but it's not a surprise that he does well here, he's a great talent like that. I would love to see him and Wilco in top form though, in order to make a fair gauge.

Pinot is probably the biggest climbing talent around right now (maybe apart from Quintana) so that's a pretty high standard to compare with. Too high, I'm afraid.

 

[Spine Concept]

Pinot is probably the biggest climbing talent around right now (maybe apart from Quintana) so that's a pretty high standard to compare with. Too high, I'm afraid.

Probably, we'll just have to wait and see I guess. Pinot does have a year on Kelderman so it comes down to the extent of the difference between them. For the time being though, Pinot has the upper hand since he has been more prominent. Next year that might change though with Wilco riding for the Rabo Proteam.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Pinot is probably the biggest climbing talent around right now (maybe apart from Quintana) so that's a pretty high standard to compare with. Too high, I'm afraid.

There's plenty more than Pinot in his age group. You missed some obvious ones. (no dutchies though, i'll give you that)

 

[theyoungest]

There's plenty more than Pinot in his age group. You missed some obvious ones. (no dutchies though, i'll give you that)

Plenty more? Who?