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I have to ask you about henri lansbury and his progress. How is he doing and would you like him permanently. He did well on loan at watford.

As for west ham good news for yee in that carlton cole came out today saying no matter what happens he will stay for the season. Fulham and galatasaray are interested in him. Yee badly need him to stay coz piquionne and carew have done nothing for yee this season. Even allardyce has said that himself. I watched yere recent game on sky against birmingham and i think west ham badly need another striker. Yee bidded for jordan rhodes but huddersfield wont sell. Why not go into the loan market.

It's a depressing state of affairs when you have to be happy that Carlton is staying, but there it is. He's a decent 'front man' in all aspects except scoring, a bit like Heskey. Piq is just useless and Carew has been a major disappointment, even at this level. Baldock has occasionally looked useful, but hasn't had an extended run, so we're not really sure about him yet. Yes, we certainly need another striker, and according to 'reports'. BFS is busy looking......I can't understand his tactics though, he has us play 4-5-1, even at home, though he claims that it's 4-3-3. We've got midfielders coming out our ears and not enough up front! I have no idea what he'd do if he had any more (decent-ish) strikers to choose from. Very odd.:eek:

From what little I've seen of Lansbury, he looks a tasty young player with bags of potential. I wouldn't say 'no', despite the number of midfielders we've already got. I don't know if we have an option to buy or if it's strictly a loan deal.
 
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Oh, the walkover fan's wet dream are playing the Ego Trip XI tonight? Over in real football, not I-Am-Christ-But-Slightly-Better Mourinho and Seriously-Guys-Nobody-Could-Do-My-Job-Except-Me Guardiola's terrain, Athletic are beating Mallorca.
 
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He looks like a real prospect. I'm glad Athletic got him early on. There's a really good little group of young players at the team at the moment, Aurtenetxe certainly among the best, but Javi Martínez, Óscar de Marcos (who has seemingly played everywhere this season, filling in at right back for Iraola again in the second half), Markel Susaeta, Iker Muniain, Mikel San José, Ander Iturraspe and Ander Herrera are all under 25 and could form the backbone of a team for years to come if the club are able to keep them. The big problem is up front; though Fernando Llorente is not exactly old, every transfer window becomes more of a threat of losing him, and we've seen in recent weeks what a difference he makes; the team just look so much more confident going forward when he's in the team, and because defenders have to be wary of him, so much more space is created for other players in the final third too. Iker Muniain can develop into a quality forward, but he's the diminutive, creative type; he's not the dependable goalscorer. Gaizka Toquero is that type of player, but like the players being mentioned earlier, the likes of Heskey and Carlton Cole, he's a workhorse who will cause a nuisance rather than somebody who can be relied on consistently for goals. And there aren't too many options for the team to bring people in from elsewhere, as I've noted a couple of times before, Aduriz and Kike being about the only viable choices. Ibai Gómez looks like a solid talent, but he's 22 now and not shown the kind of progression the other Athletic youngsters have, and you'd have expected him to get more of a tryout in the last few weeks with Llorente injured if they expected him to be their man for the future.

As long as Llorente sticks around, I am pretty optimistic for the future at Athletic.
 
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gooner said:
I have to say i am not that bothered either. Maybe thats because they are playing each other so much these days. After these two legs they will have played 5 times already and it could go as far as 8 times with the league game in the nou camp and another possible 2 legged affair in the CL in the quarter finals or semis.

I will watch it but i cant say i look forward to it as much as before.

BTW craig, is it me or what but it seems to me we are the only ones taking over this football thread at the moment.

Maybe...i watch alot of football but just dont talk about it here anymore.
 
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Libertine Seguros said:
He looks like a real prospect. I'm glad Athletic got him early on. There's a really good little group of young players at the team at the moment, Aurtenetxe certainly among the best, but Javi Martínez, Óscar de Marcos (who has seemingly played everywhere this season, filling in at right back for Iraola again in the second half), Markel Susaeta, Iker Muniain, Mikel San José, Ander Iturraspe and Ander Herrera are all under 25 and could form the backbone of a team for years to come if the club are able to keep them. The big problem is up front; though Fernando Llorente is not exactly old, every transfer window becomes more of a threat of losing him, and we've seen in recent weeks what a difference he makes; the team just look so much more confident going forward when he's in the team, and because defenders have to be wary of him, so much more space is created for other players in the final third too. Iker Muniain can develop into a quality forward, but he's the diminutive, creative type; he's not the dependable goalscorer. Gaizka Toquero is that type of player, but like the players being mentioned earlier, the likes of Heskey and Carlton Cole, he's a workhorse who will cause a nuisance rather than somebody who can be relied on consistently for goals. And there aren't too many options for the team to bring people in from elsewhere, as I've noted a couple of times before, Aduriz and Kike being about the only viable choices. Ibai Gómez looks like a solid talent, but he's 22 now and not shown the kind of progression the other Athletic youngsters have, and you'd have expected him to get more of a tryout in the last few weeks with Llorente injured if they expected him to be their man for the future.

As long as Llorente sticks around, I am pretty optimistic for the future at Athletic.

Hypothetical question, could xabi be welcome in athletic and will he ever go there (alonso is the one i am talking about)
 
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Zam_Olyas said:
Hypothetical question, could xabi be welcome in athletic and will he ever go there (alonso is the one i am talking about)

I don't see any obstacle to his being welcome. His Real Sociedad days are long gone now, and he is Basque (and has of course played for the Euskal Selekzioa just the other week). As long as he has a place among the galacticos I see no reason why he would want to make that move, but perhaps once he's started to slow down a bit with age he mightn't be able to command a place at the Bernabéu anymore, but he'd still be more than useful to a team like Athletic.
 
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Libertine Seguros said:
I don't see any obstacle to his being welcome. His Real Sociedad days are long gone now, and he is Basque (and has of course played for the Euskal Selekzioa just the other week). As long as he has a place among the galacticos I see no reason why he would want to make that move, but perhaps once he's started to slow down a bit with age he mightn't be able to command a place at the Bernabéu anymore, but he'd still be more than useful to a team like Athletic.

that he played for real sociedad was the reason i ask,have followed him since his real sociedad days...they were a good team, nihat, kovacevic, xabi and his brother and speaking of basque team 97-98 athletic team was pretty good
 
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Zam_Olyas said:
that he played for real sociedad was the reason i ask,have followed him since his real sociedad days...they were a good team, nihat, kovacevic, xabi and his brother and speaking of basque team 97-98 athletic team was pretty good

Being a Real Sociedad old boy is not an obstacle to Athletic, after all, as the other major Basque cantera they're one of very few root sources for young Basques (leaving the arguments about whether Osasuna count for Señor Contador to get on his high horse about, but let's just say that Osasuna is Basque for 'health'). In the current Athletic squad, Igor Gabilondo, Iban Zubiaurre and Xabier Castillo were signed from Real (Zubiaurre's signing in particular being controversial).

After all, Athletic already limit their potential signings enough by refusing to allow non-Basques, so refusing to allow Basques who have played for their main rivals too is a bit excessive! (And of course, we then have to think about whether Osasuna or Deportivo Álaves, at times of success, should merit the same considerations, and then you're basically limited to them taking players from other Basque small teams like Eibar, Sestao River or Durango)
 
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Libertine Seguros said:
Being a Real Sociedad old boy is not an obstacle to Athletic, after all, as the other major Basque cantera they're one of very few root sources for young Basques (leaving the arguments about whether Osasuna count for Señor Contador to get on his high horse about, but let's just say that Osasuna is Basque for 'health'). In the current Athletic squad, Igor Gabilondo, Iban Zubiaurre and Xabier Castillo were signed from Real (Zubiaurre's signing in particular being controversial).

After all, Athletic already limit their potential signings enough by refusing to allow non-Basques, so refusing to allow Basques who have played for their main rivals too is a bit excessive! (And of course, we then have to think about whether Osasuna or Deportivo Álaves, at times of success, should merit the same considerations, and then you're basically limited to them taking players from other Basque small teams like Eibar, Sestao River or Durango)
Thank you. Quality as ever.
 
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FIFA needs a restart," says Rummenigge

Munich -- Golden rays from a winter sun flooded through the windows, and radiators working at capacity added to the toasty atmosphere. Yet the temperature seemed to drop markedly when the most contentious topic in soccer politics came up for debate. The two powerful men sitting next to each other at the head of Bayern Munich's board table were expected to project a unity of purpose in a briefing for international media on Monday; but to the surprise of some listeners, they voiced fundamentally opposed views about FIFA.
One of the men in question, Adidas CEO Herbert Hainer, was broadly speaking in support of the soccer's governing body and its embattled president, Sepp Blatter. Hainer forcefully rejected suggestions that his company's sponsorship of an organization dodged by persistent allegations of corruption was damaging the brand.
"We work together with our partners and talk to them to behind the curtains, we don't shout (criticism) in public," he told SI.com, calmly.
On his right, Karl-Heinz Rummenigge bit his tongue. A little later, however, the Bayern Munich CEO, 9 percent of whose club is owned by Adidas as a strategic partner, used a fairly innocuous question to launch a stinging attack on the lack of progress in Zurich in recent months. Now it was Hainer's turn to gaze at the floor, visibly uncomfortable in his chair, too.
As Rummenigge was laying out the case against FIFA, however, it became conceivable that the two men were actually engaged in an elaborate "good cop, bad cop" exercise. Hainer was dangling a giant carrot (in the form of Adidas' $175 million sponsorship deal covering the period until the next World Cup in Brazil, 2014) , and Rummenigge, the head of the 200-strong European Club Association (ECA), was waving an imaginary stick. The 56-year-old, a former world class striker with Bayern, Internazionale and West Germany, did not explicitly renew his threat to lead a breakaway of the clubs from FIFA and UEFA. But he did warn that he was prepared to sign the next contract ("Memorandum of Understanding") governing relations between soccer's principal shareholders beyond 2014 if FIFA -- and to a lesser extent UEFA -- guaranteed "(the principles of) transparency, democracy and (good) governance."
"If you cannot convince the (soccer) family to follow you, you are lost," he added, hinting darkly at the clubs' nuclear option, a refusal to release players for international tournaments.
FIFA's and UEFA's ever-burgeoning fixture calendar and disagreements about financial compensation for the release of players are at the heart of Rummenigge's problems with soccer's governing bodies, aside from the wider issue of FIFA's bad PR.
"The image of FIFA is a disaster, it could not be worse," he said. "Every company or club would collapse if they had similar problems. You cannot ignore these issues in today's world. You have to convince the soccer world, and the whole world, that there is a restart. You can call it 'FIFA 2.0' or whatever you like. But you have to show that you are serious."
Back in July 2011, Mr. Rummenigge had argued for "a revolution against the corrupt people" but his stance has apparently softened somewhat. He is now at least willing to consider the possibility that FIFA's promises of reform might be kept, even if his words betrayed some skepticism.
"I read about various commissions working (toward change) in the newspapers but I'm very curious, to tell you the truth, whether the answers will be convincing. FIFA have to realize that without the clubs, nothing would function."
Probably to Mr. Hainer's relief, Rummenigge declined the opportunity to call for Mr. Blatter's resignation.
"He has been elected by the federations, with a huge majority and standing ovations," he said. "We have to recognize and accept that. Now he needs to show that he's willing to change. We should give him a chance to change; we should give him a chance."
Even if Rummenigge's and Hainer's statements were not pre-coordinated, they were certainly well timed. This Wednesday, FIFA confirmed that Blatter and Rummenigge were due to meet for a round of negotiations regarding compensation. Agencies reported the soccer body's willingness to raise the overall sum paid out to clubs during the 2014 World Cup to €55m. Whether Mr. Hainer managed to have a quiet word or two with Blatter on this occasion, too, was impossible to ascertain. But one would certainly hope so.


Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/soccer/news/20120118/hanier-rummenigge-views-on-fifa/#ixzz1jr8ZHQ5y
 
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Another thoroughly enjoyable loss for Real Mad.:D

I can only hope that the Spanish FA will act against that idiot animal, Pepe, on the basis of the clear evidence of the tv pictures that he not only pretended to have been hit in the face, but also that he stepped on Messi's hand. Both offences occured when he already had a deserved yellow. It's a disgrace that this scum plays for Real Mad. and it's a mystery how this animal is still allowed to play at all.

Carvalho could also have gone for a heavy foul when he already was on a yellow.

My personal highlight, which was sadly not shown on the replay, came early in the game when Alves knocked a ball across the field to Iniesta on the left wing - the ball was too high and looked like it was going out for a throw - Iniesta sort of stuck one leg in the air behind him, and suddenly the ball sat up perfectly at his feet. Of course, it was 'lucky', but it was also an astonishing bit of skill and artistry.:cool:
 
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Sydney FC were horrible against Perth to let them score. They had the nail in the coffin.

Bad standard of football anyways ( but every country has to start somewhere )
 
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greenedge said:
Sydney FC were horrible against Perth to let them score. They had the nail in the coffin.

Bad standard of football anyways ( but every country has to start somewhere )

I think we all had difficulties sleeping after that match... ;)
 
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Amsterhammer said:
No comments needed - Pepe diving and pretending to have been hit in the face.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBmFBQ6QGFc

Pepe standing on Messi's hand -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1TP3YqDPSI

What about the game against Getafe a few a years ago? From his wiki:

"...on 21 April 2009, he was involved in an incident with Getafe CF's Javier Casquero: with the score at 2–2 and only a few minutes to play, he brought down the midfielder in the penalty area, being subsequently sent off. He then proceeded to kick the fallen opponent twice, once on his shin and once on his lower back. When being pulled away from Casquero, he also pushed his head into the turf and stamped on him several times. In the ensuing melee he also struck another Getafe player, Juan Albin, in the face. Eventually he received a 10-game ban, which effectively ended his season."

You have to question why Mourinho would have Pepe in midfield and when things don't go his way, it's like a ticking time bomb (not that I'm a fan of Pepe, I think he will get his comeuppance one day). I would rather Sergio Ramos at right back (seeing as though Altintop has barely featured) with Pepe in the centre of defence. I don't have a problem with Diarra in the midfield along with Alonso, but perhaps Khedira who could complement Alonso in midfield, because once Alonso is cramped for space then he isn't going to be able to search for space to deliver 20m passes forward.
 
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craig1985 said:
What about the game against Getafe a few a years ago? From his wiki:

"...on 21 April 2009, he was involved in an incident with Getafe CF's Javier Casquero: with the score at 2–2 and only a few minutes to play, he brought down the midfielder in the penalty area, being subsequently sent off. He then proceeded to kick the fallen opponent twice, once on his shin and once on his lower back. When being pulled away from Casquero, he also pushed his head into the turf and stamped on him several times. In the ensuing melee he also struck another Getafe player, Juan Albin, in the face. Eventually he received a 10-game ban, which effectively ended his season."

Here it is - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11enIeWNJbE&feature=related

It is a disgrace for a club like Real to take no action themselves against this animal. It is even more shameful that a club like Real even has this utter azzwipe on their books.
 
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Another great moment was when one of the real players, dont know the name clashed with Messi, he put his hand over messis head as if to hug him, then pushed messis head to the floor instead:D

It was like one of those, "here let me help you up", then let them go when they start to pull themselves up, moments.

Messi then proceeded to act as if hed been hit over the head by a baseball bat.

Sadly ref wasnt looking as Real did deserve at least 2 red cards.
 
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You mad Arshavin?