The Real Football Thread

[Nastyy]

who cares about win percentage, england only lost out in 2002 to the eventual winners, in 2004 very unluckily on penalties to portugal who were on great form, and again on penalties in 2006... if it wasnt for rooney breaking his foot I think england would have won euro 2004, and if not for his crotch stamping they would have done portugal in 2006... infact if it wasnt for big phil scolari sven would have had it so much easier... england were a big force with sven and haven't been since..

England haven't been a big force since Lineker.

 

[palmerq]

England haven't been a big force since Lineker.

and 2004 :S

 

[Zam_Olyas]

AC vs Juventus . coppa italia semi-final 1st leg http://www.firstrowsports.eu/watch/106462/1/watch-ac-milan-vs-juventus.html

 

[pmcg76]

who cares about win percentage, england only lost out in 2002 to the eventual winners, in 2004 very unluckily on penalties to portugal who were on great form, and again on penalties in 2006... if it wasnt for rooney breaking his foot I think england would have won euro 2004, and if not for his crotch stamping they would have done portugal in 2006... infact if it wasnt for big phil scolari sven would have had it so much easier... england were a big force with sven and haven't been since..

Do you realise the problem with this post!!! Too many ifs and maybes, I can gurantee most other major countries can do a rundown of the same types of ifs and maybes. How many times have Holland lost out on penalties etc. Its about going out and winning the tournaments, not what ifs.

Engalnd have not appeared in a final of a major tournament since 1966, there is more than luck to blame for that stat. Portugal, Spain, France, Italy, Holland, Denmark, Greece, Czech Republic, Belgium, former USSR, former Yugoslavia have all played in a major final since England last appeared. England are simply the great underachievers.

In saying that, with everything in turmoil I fully expect them to now go on an win Euro 2012. Might even throw a few bob on them.

 

[The Hitch]

Capello has apparently recieved 25 million for 4 years in charge.

Thats over 6 million a year.

That is very very sad news

When the government of this country (something knowhere near as important as the FA of course), with concern for the recession problem that is you know, leaving people in poverty, was making cuts in the budget it made cuts for some football youth projects.

This was protested heavily by the football world.

Yet the Fa is wasting 25 million on this ****.

Hire someone for the very generous package of 500 grand a year (which is more than the Prime Minister of this country and the President of the US put together make), and fund the grass roots yourselves you ****s.

 

[palmerq]

Do you realise the problem with this post!!! Too many ifs and maybes, I can gurantee most other major countries can do a rundown of the same types of ifs and maybes. How many times have Holland lost out on penalties etc. Its about going out and winning the tournaments, not what ifs.

Engalnd have not appeared in a final of a major tournament since 1966, there is more than luck to blame for that stat. Portugal, Spain, France, Italy, Holland, Denmark, Greece, Czech Republic, Belgium, former USSR, former Yugoslavia have all played in a major final since England last appeared. England are simply the great underachievers.

In saying that, with everything in turmoil I fully expect them to now go on an win Euro 2012. Might even throw a few bob on them.

yes of course, but a broken foot for one of the best players in the tournament is just very bad luck.. and then having a goal ruled out for nothing in extra time, england were exceptionally unlucky in 2004... anyway all I am saying is england were at their best in recent memory when sven was in charge and he did very well in major tournaments but came up agaisnt the best team in 2002 and bad luck in others... He did well with england... I much prefer it when england are given a beating like the germans did in 2010

 

[The Hitch]

yes of course, but a broken foot for one of the best players in the tournament is just very bad luck.. and then having a goal ruled out for nothing in extra time, england were exceptionally unlucky in 2004... anyway all I am saying is england were at their best in recent memory when sven was in charge and he did very well in major tournaments but came up agaisnt the best team in 2002 and bad luck in others... He did well with england... I much prefer it when england are given a beating like the germans did in 2010

Lampard Gerrard when they were at their best, Beckham still good, Terry and Campbell and Ferdinand in defense, Cashley Cole, Owen up front England had an amazing team which is why they performed well under erikson.

 

[palmerq]

and he was a very good manager :S

 

[palmerq]

OK Capello hasnt done a great job but yet Redknapp with his limited CV has this mass respect while Capello with his huge achievements in management has little respect. Sad.

Redknapp doesnt compare with the great managers in the game when you look at his achievements compared to those.

His one FA cup to Capello who has won a league wherever he has managed. Imagine putting Redknapp`s achievements up against our manager Trappattoni and it would be embarrassing but yet Redknapp can do no wrong and he is the media darling in England.

but harry is english that's all thats needed :S just like mclaren.... ops..

I dont think capello is equipped to deal with the english team, great manager but I dont think the english resond to him well, it's probably for the best(for england) he has gone, the english team reminds me a bit of real madrid with layers with very large egos(john terry at wc 2010) and all the nonsense from the media and backstage at the fa.. I really hope they hire someone who is highly incompetent again

 

[Amsterhammer]

OK Capello hasnt done a great job but yet Redknapp with his limited CV has this mass respect while Capello with his huge achievements in management has little respect. Sad.

Redknapp doesnt compare with the great managers in the game when you look at his achievements compared to those.

His one FA cup to Capello who has won a league wherever he has managed. Imagine putting Redknapp`s achievements up against our manager Trappattoni and it would be embarrassing but yet Redknapp can do no wrong and he is the media darling in England.

Oh Harry this, Harry that. To tell you the truth it makes me sick.

I have lot more time for a manager like Roy Hodgson who i think should get the job.

Totally agree with this, and also with Hitch's rant. Don't get me started about good old 'Arry.

 

[craig1985]

harry to england, jose to tottingham and capello to real.... the perfect crime :S..

Lol wut?..

 

[Zam_Olyas]

 

[Thomsena]

Ah, this brings back memories to the Keane/Vieira era. How I've missed abit if controversial before and after the matches. It just add something extra. Let's keep the racial stuff out but nothings wrong with a bit of trash talk. Keep it up, Evra/Suarez!

 

[palmerq]

Wayne Rooney has tipped Harry Redknapp for the job but what about Roy Keane`s response last night on ITV to it when he said:

""Wayne should keep his nose out of it. He didn't do enough on the pitch when Capello was manager."

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/3284...y-should-keep-his-nose-out-of-england-manager

Oh, I see Redknapp can all of a sudden can use a phone.

I guess someone dialed the numbers for him and handed it to dirty harry...


Roy Keane seems very active in the news concerning man united recently to me he is coming across as someone who is angry(not like roy) with the club, I dont want england untill the major tournaments so I dont know how rooney has been doing or if roy has a point or not...

 

[l.Harm]

Saw Rooney @South Africa 2010

 

[palmerq]

I watched the Arsenal game today against Sunderland. Arteta and Koscielny were excellent and it was great to see Thierry pop up with the winner in the last minute before he heads back to the Red Bulls. Mertesacker got a bad injury and went down injured while he had the ball which resulted in James McCLean going straight through to score. BTW Walcott was dreadful once again and its a mystery to me why he even lasted 86 mins before getting taken off.

I read one football forum, fairly big, and the reaction from the arsenal fans to the signings that arsenal made was pretty stupid, arteta was ridiculed quit a lot, good to see he is doing well(and an old spl player too he was good here).. the way the fans talked about jadson was most stupid, I follow shaktar sometimes and jadson is a very good player and is exactly what the arsenal fans were looking for but he wasnt a big enough name so he was insulted too... shame.... I dont even know what my point is, but I think a lot of football fans are stupid and have no idea :S

 

[greenedge]

I liked the Spurs vs Newcastle game along with Liv/ Man U and Arsenal and Sunderland. Chealsea were completely outplayed.

 

[The Hitch]

Futsal EC was on Eurosport.

Highly entertaining stuff. All quick passing and skills.

Spain destroyed everyone with some insane football, until the final against Russia today.

They fluked both their goals - big deflections.

Unlucky Russia.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Ah, this brings back memories to the Keane/Vieira era. How I've missed abit if controversial before and after the matches. It just add something extra. Let's keep the racial stuff out but nothings wrong with a bit of trash talk. Keep it up, Evra/Suarez!

I also loved Ferguson ranting about Suárez being a disgrace. It seems he forgot how long he stood by Roy Keane after the guy decided to try to kill Alf Inge Håland in a long-premeditated attack. Refusing to shake hands isn't disgraceful. Deliberate assault is.

Oh, and congrats to Osasuna for stuffing the Guardiola love train. The commentators must have been crying at seeing their beloved Barcelona team lose.

 

[Amsterhammer]

I'm after some opinions on yesterday because I'm wondering how other neutrals see the great 'no handshake' affair.

1. Suarez is an unpleasant piece of work, always has been, but I really do not believe that he's a racist.

2. Evra is another widely disliked nasty piece of work with a history of allegations of racist abuse. He's just a ***, and when someone calls him a *** it's seen as racist.

3. Refusing to shake the hand of someone who's gotten you banned for eight games is not an ultimate crime, maybe just bad manners.

4. The event has been blown up out of all proportion by the gutter press, f***ing Sky Sports, and that utter hypocrite, Ferguson.

5. Feguson calling for Liverpool to get rid of Suarez because of this is truly ultimate hypocrisy. Did he condemn or get rid of Schmeichel back in '97 over the Ian Wright in the tunnel abuse affair? Did he get rid of a player who laid a karate kick on a spectator?

edit - you posted as I was writing, Gooner. Like I said, bad manners, not the end of the world, and certainly not any kind of 'racist' action - imho.

 

[Amsterhammer]

As for tonight, I hope that Zambia can continue to surprise and beat Drogba's favorites.

 

[Parrulo]

He'll be waiting for a few more years for SAF to retire though.

On a different subject, Parrulo, I know you don't like Porto, but good of a player is Fredy Guarin as he is set to join Inter shortly.

late reply i know but tbh i don't know the answer as i barely ever watch porto playing

who cares about win percentage, england only lost out in 2002 to the eventual winners, in 2004 very unluckily on penalties to portugal who were on great form, and again on penalties in 2006... if it wasnt for rooney breaking his foot I think england would have won euro 2004, and if not for his crotch stamping they would have done portugal in 2006... infact if it wasnt for big phil scolari sven would have had it so much easier... england were a big force with sven and haven't been since..

lolololololololollolol ya right lil'poo'old england just so unlukcy

because england actually had a better team then portugal back in 2004 and 2006 . . . get real rooney was already your best player in 2004 and he had nothing on ronaldo who wasn't portugal's best player at the time. and if you want to go by if's i can say that portugal only lost in 2004 because of miguel's injury as paulo ferreira isn't half player miguel is.

anyway on a serious note now. has any1 been watching benfica play lately? if not prepare for a surprise next wednesday, if the players aren't affected by the cold and prolly poor state of the field in russia, they will embarrass zenit

 

[palmerq]

lolololololololollolol ya right lil'poo'old england just so unlukcy

because england actually had a better team then portugal back in 2004 and 2006 . . . get real rooney was already your best player in 2004 and he had nothing on ronaldo who wasn't portugal's best player at the time. and if you want to go by if's i can say that portugal only lost in 2004 because of miguel's injury as paulo ferreira isn't half player miguel is.

anyway on a serious note now. has any1 been watching benfica play lately? if not prepare for a surprise next wednesday, if the players aren't affected by the cold and prolly poor state of the field in russia, they will embarrass zenit

Im not english, quite the opposite they are my least favourite team, but under sven they were a major team and they havn't been since...

 

[Parrulo]

Im not english, quite the opposite they are my least favourite team, but under sven they were a major team and they havn't been since...

from being a major force to being unluckily/unjustly eliminated by an in your opinion weaker team, its quiet the leap. they were just a good team like many other teams who had a chance of performing well.

 

[palmerq]

from being a major force to being unluckily/unjustly eliminated by an in your opinion weaker team, its quiet the leap. they were just a good team like many other teams who had a chance of performing well.

in those days england were major contendors for the trophies and weren't getting beaten easily like 2010 or not even qualifying, they were only ever put out on penalties in games where they were the better team or by the fellows who won the world cup in 2002 ...