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Both have had a huge success early in their carreer with a young, low-budget squad (Mourinho-Porto, Van Gaal-Ajax). Both then went on to assemble around them a large group of obedient "yes" men who lack the balls and vision to point out obvious flaws in their tactics and people management.
Both seem rather stereotype examples of people who don't allow for, or know how to deal with, criticism.
In some ways he's going down the same path as Van Gaal.The Hitch said:The second narcisinho leaves Chelsea win
Didn't real Madrid win the champions league literally the season after he left?
Both have had a huge success early in their carreer with a young, low-budget squad (Mourinho-Porto, Van Gaal-Ajax). Both then went on to assemble around them a large group of obedient "yes" men who lack the balls and vision to point out obvious flaws in their tactics and people management.
Both seem rather stereotype examples of people who don't allow for, or know how to deal with, criticism.
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Completely agree with the comment regarding criticism. However Mourinho has had continued success from when he took over Porto. He's won league titles in Portugal, England, Italy and Spain as well as domestic cup competitions in each of those countries. Champions league titles with 2 clubs and a UEFA cup with Porto.
Whilst I know he does have flaws and is not everyone's cup of tea there is a reason most Man United fans I know, and I know a great deal of them from my age group, are absolutely desperate for Mourinho to take over at Old Trafford.
sniper said:In some ways he's going down the same path as Van Gaal.The Hitch said:The second narcisinho leaves Chelsea win
Didn't real Madrid win the champions league literally the season after he left?
Both have had a huge success early in their carreer with a young, low-budget squad (Mourinho-Porto, Van Gaal-Ajax). Both then went on to assemble around them a large group of obedient "yes" men who lack the balls and vision to point out obvious flaws in their tactics and people management.
Both seem rather stereotype examples of people who don't allow for, or know how to deal with, criticism.
Completely agree with the comment regarding criticism. However Mourinho has had continued success from when he took over Porto. He's won league titles in Portugal, England, Italy and Spain as well as domestic cup competitions in each of those countries. Champions league titles with 2 clubs and a UEFA cup with Porto.
Whilst I know he does have flaws and is not everyone's cup of tea there is a reason most Man United fans I know, and I know a great deal of them from my age group, are absolutely desperate for Mourinho to take over at Old Trafford.
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Re: randy
As a long suffering Aston Villa fan I feel disgusted with how far we have fallen in recent years. Championship football beckons.
ebandit said:
what the glazers did to man u is trifling compared with what that randy guy has
done to villa
i will welcome the 3 points for the toon today...........villa fans deserve better
there i am sporting my old villa hat hand knitted by mother c1969.......home made
quality!
Mark L
As a long suffering Aston Villa fan I feel disgusted with how far we have fallen in recent years. Championship football beckons.
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Again. In how many of those league titles did he not have the player by player best team in the competition? And if not 1st then close second.
For mourinho winning league titles was like winning TDF's for Lance Armstrong. Piece of cake considering you have superior resources to everyone else.
The majority of football fans just believe what Sky sports news tell them. In any case, football fans believing something doesn't mean its true.
Pricey_sky said:sniper said:In some ways he's going down the same path as Van Gaal.The Hitch said:The second narcisinho leaves Chelsea win
Didn't real Madrid win the champions league literally the season after he left?
Both have had a huge success early in their carreer with a young, low-budget squad (Mourinho-Porto, Van Gaal-Ajax). Both then went on to assemble around them a large group of obedient "yes" men who lack the balls and vision to point out obvious flaws in their tactics and people management.
Both seem rather stereotype examples of people who don't allow for, or know how to deal with, criticism.
Completely agree with the comment regarding criticism. However Mourinho has had continued success from when he took over Porto. He's won league titles in Portugal, England, Italy and Spain as well as domestic cup competitions in each of those countries. Champions league titles with 2 clubs and a UEFA cup with Porto.
Again. In how many of those league titles did he not have the player by player best team in the competition? And if not 1st then close second.
For mourinho winning league titles was like winning TDF's for Lance Armstrong. Piece of cake considering you have superior resources to everyone else.
That's kind of like saying David Cameron must be right on everything because people voted for him.
The majority of football fans just believe what Sky sports news tell them. In any case, football fans believing something doesn't mean its true.
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It is not like Chelsea racked up titles in the years in between Mourinho's spells at the club, despite possessing the same financial muscle. And although Real Madrid won the CL the year after he left, Mourinho did take them to the semis three years on the trot after getting eliminated in the round of 16 six years in a row before he arrived. He obviously lost the team this year and did a thoroughly poor job, but I don't think you can attribute his successes all to money.
EDIT. First sentence should say 'league titles'...
EDIT. First sentence should say 'league titles'...
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Hitch most managers now win trophies because they have access to massive budgets and are able to buy the best players. That is part and parcel of modern football. Very rarely do clubs win trophies without lots of money to spend and aren't one of the big favourites to win, yet he's done it twice with Porto and Inter.
Yes you mention league titles but how many teams were domestic champions (in a top league) last year that did not spend big? If anyone could do it then why didn't Rogers or Moyes win a title after they had successful spells previously at Swansea and Everton. Van Gaal is proving to be a failure too and he had lots of money to spend.
Leicester are the only team that are at the top of a major league that buck this trend, however I still doubt they will win the league and it will probably go to either Man City or Arsenal. Again 2 clubs with great players who have money to spend. even Arsenal spent big on Ozil and Sanchez.
Yes you mention league titles but how many teams were domestic champions (in a top league) last year that did not spend big? If anyone could do it then why didn't Rogers or Moyes win a title after they had successful spells previously at Swansea and Everton. Van Gaal is proving to be a failure too and he had lots of money to spend.
Leicester are the only team that are at the top of a major league that buck this trend, however I still doubt they will win the league and it will probably go to either Man City or Arsenal. Again 2 clubs with great players who have money to spend. even Arsenal spent big on Ozil and Sanchez.
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Mourinho changed.
In his early years you could see that his teams liked to keep the ball, as in, he played offensive football based on a very high possession rate, like Barcelona or Bayern. As time went by, he became obsessed with results and changed his approach to tactics. His teams began to display lower possession in favour of counter attacks. This was clearly the case with Inter and Real Madrid, but it became evident in Chelsea. The thing is, he had really good players who could dribble anyone or were very creative/fast. Eto'o, Sneijder, Ronaldo, Modric, Benzema, Hazard, Willian, Oscar, Fabregas.
Hazard himself last year had a clash with Mourinho. They discussed that Chelsea's football was a piece of crap and that Mourinho had them play an ugly football, which was stupid since he had a pretty good squad.
In his early years you could see that his teams liked to keep the ball, as in, he played offensive football based on a very high possession rate, like Barcelona or Bayern. As time went by, he became obsessed with results and changed his approach to tactics. His teams began to display lower possession in favour of counter attacks. This was clearly the case with Inter and Real Madrid, but it became evident in Chelsea. The thing is, he had really good players who could dribble anyone or were very creative/fast. Eto'o, Sneijder, Ronaldo, Modric, Benzema, Hazard, Willian, Oscar, Fabregas.
Hazard himself last year had a clash with Mourinho. They discussed that Chelsea's football was a piece of crap and that Mourinho had them play an ugly football, which was stupid since he had a pretty good squad.
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Early stage dementia for Blatter methinks.
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Ars 2 - 0 Man C
1st half done.
Fluid, fast play by Gunners.
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Ars 2 - 0 Man C
1st half done.
Fluid, fast play by Gunners.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-35198352
Amster, nice to see a young Hammer get recognition for what he does.
One of the more worthy on the honours list
Amster, nice to see a young Hammer get recognition for what he does.
One of the more worthy on the honours list
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What an excellent story, Archie! Thanks for posting. HNY to you, mate, here's hoping Payet is back soon and we grab that EL ticket!
Archieboy said:
What an excellent story, Archie! Thanks for posting. HNY to you, mate, here's hoping Payet is back soon and we grab that EL ticket!
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Eric10 said:
Kidderminster fan here, Great to see you doing so well and loved out Derby games over the years. The things are going it won't be long until we meet again!
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Yup.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/rafa-benitez-sacked-real-madrid-7115351
gooner said:
Yup.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/rafa-benitez-sacked-real-madrid-7115351
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