gooner said:
I follow Arsenal since 1991 when I was 9 years of age. I followed them through thick and thin so don't be talking about me as if you know me.
I am also against Barca and R.Madrid as well. They rob all the TV rights as they sell them individual while the other 18 sell them collectively. That is wrong also. They don't care about the lesser clubs in La Liga. I can show you posts in this thread where I stand up for these clubs and that will put you firmly back into your shell and place. Instead of talking rubbish with no counter argument why don't you come up with a legit point to debate, then talk about a load of f****** nonsense yourself about bandwagon supporters. The bandwagon supporters are the johnny come latelys who arrived at City and Chelsea when the Sheikhs and Abramovich took over. You just follow the game on the green grass and don't care about the running of it while I follow it at all levels be on the field and the adminstrative side of things. I feel sorry for clubs like Wigan who spend nearly 100% of their turnover on wages. Dave Whelan is doing a good job running the club but Wigan are also a victim of what Chelsea and Man City are doing.
What I just said, Uli Hoeness has said last week also when he criticised Abramovich and what he has done to football. He has criticsed Chelsea and Man City on numerous occasions. So has Karl Heinz-Rummeniegge and Arsene Wenger. Are they "f****** bandwagon jumpers preaching about so called ethics in football" so as well? Frankly speaking you don't know what your talking about.
Chelsea were training at a terrible university pitch which they were renting out when Abramovich took over. Abramovich comes in and spends a rake of money on a modern state of the art one at Cobham. The difference with Arsenal and United is that they built their state of the art ones at London Colney and Carrington through their own money. Chelsea were in the stone age before Abramovich arrived. Liverpool modernised their ground at Melwood through their own money also.
Typical response from a glory hunter on the bandwagon. You "chose" Arsenal as your team. A club from a city in a country that I would imagine you have zero connection. Thick and thin, dont make me laugh, thin for Arsenal is not winning titles like all big clubs yet in their thin years they are still more successful than the small clubs. Last time Arsenal didnt qualify for CL was ??? yeah, so tough to follow.
Why didnt you pick a team like Everton, Villa or some mid ranking team who have little success. No reflected glory to boast about I guess. Almost everyone in Ireland picks their team based on their level of success and wouldnt cross the street to watch their local team. Glory hunters all and the level of obsession they invest in teams from places they have no connection with is pathetic.
You fail to see that part of the reason football is ruled by money is that all the glory hunters around the world make the already rich clubs even richer making competition even more skewed because they choose to only follow successful clubs. This has been excaberated in the last 20 years as more money has entered the sport and the gap widens between the haves and have nots.
How much do you reckon Irish "fans" invest in "their" English team each year, now imagine that multiplied by similar fans around the globe. Imagine if that money was going to Wigan or wherever. Would make a huge difference. As a result, the only way a smaller club can ever compete is to find a rich sugardaddy like Chelsea or City. I dont particularly like it either buts its fantastic to see a club like City put one over their neighbours.
However when a club attains the same level of finance from elsewhere, nothing but whining. Fans of the big clubs cannot see past their own success and would rather see their own clubs dominate every season rather than see other teams offer competition.
As for Bayern Munich, they are the biggest most popular club in Germany with the most money and they like it like that. They dont want competition and when someone can compete with them financially, they moan. Munich were one of the main aggressors of the G-14 group of supreclubs who wanted their own greedy little super league. Dont try to tell me they care about anyone else, they dont.
I remember when Bayer Leverkusen started to compete with them in the early 00s, Hoeness was moaning about Leverkusen having the financial backing of the Bayer group. The director of Bayer pointed out that much of their finance came from the fact that Bayer had signed Brazilians like Lucio, Cafu etc for very little when they were unknown and sold them on for millions. Bayern do nothing except moan about their rivals, if anyone beats them, there is usually an excuse.
I would like to see football run along the lines of NFL where everyone has the same budget regardless of popularity, money etc. Even though I dont think it would ever work in soccer, it would make it more interesting but there is no way the big clubs would ever accept it as they simply do not want a level playing field as some smaller club might have success and start to draw those glory hunters who would normally support the big club.
Football is about money, however it is attained.
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