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dazaau

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Logic-is-your-friend said:
Not even close.
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Is this why Remco starts so many small stage races with low competition? Because to not win is seen as a failure?

According to the lantern rouge Remco put in the best climbing performance of the year in the tour of Norway, buy why don't we see him at the criterium de dauphine, Tirreno - no one is watching the tour of Norway during the giro :(
 
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dazaau said:
Is this why Remco starts so many small stage races with low competition? Because to not win is seen as a failure?

According to the lantern rouge Remco put in the best climbing performance of the year in the tour of Norway, buy why don't we see him at the criterium de dauphine, Tirreno - no one is watching the tour of Norway during the giro :(
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how would we see him at the dauphine during the giro...? I am confused.

how many race days has he done compared to others...? Seems like a lot. He has done two of the hardest world tour stage races and is about to do another... (?)

itzulia (the hardest one-week stage race in the season) was already a huge step up considering his weight and fitness at that time. and he was by far the rider who animated the most attacking and excitement.

he is going to the TDS and therefore cannot go to Dauphine...(?) Again, I am confused about what exactly your issue is...?

the TDS is arguably more difficult than Dauphine. and the competition (other than jumbo) appears to also be much harder.

other than pog, who exactly in your mind has been more successful in the entirety of the races they have done this year...? One could perhaps point to Vlasov for consistency. But what has he actually won...Valenciana in freaking February...!?

and btw, side-note: many, many fans preferred Norway this year over watching the most boring giro ever. lol. at least there was exciting, attacking riding.
 
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dazaau said:
Is this why Remco starts so many small stage races with low competition? Because to not win is seen as a failure?

According to the lantern rouge Remco put in the best climbing performance of the year in the tour of Norway, buy why don't we see him at the criterium de dauphine, Tirreno - no one is watching the tour of Norway during the giro :(
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He rides the Tour de Suisse instead of Dauphiné since he isn't riding the Tour but going to the Vuelta. The reason he has done so many small races, is because that was the plan in 2019-2020, due to his age when he became a pro right after leaving the juniors. The team made a schedule with many small races leading up to the 2020 Giro. But then Covid happened and the season got reshuffled and he crashed out during Lombardia before the Giro. He came back too soon and wasn't ready for the 2021 Giro, so the team let him ride smaller races again to slowly get him back to his best form. This year he has done Tirreno (11th), Itzulia (4th) and Liège (1st) already, which aren't exactly small races.
 
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Hugo Koblet said:
His 2021 schedule was a disaster and had he done a better schedule last year his 2022 plan might have looked different. However, taking 2021 into consideration, I think his 2022 schedule has been very good.
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It was a disaster because his winter prep was a disaster and he didn't get to race before the Giro. After that there were the Olympics, which again had to be shoehorned into the schedule.
 
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Logic-is-your-friend said:
It was a disaster because his winter prep was a disaster and he didn't get to race before the Giro. After that there were the Olympics, which again had to be shoehorned into the schedule.
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Well, yes of course. But it was a disaster to do the Giro. He should have done some one day and one week races instead. Algarve and Andalucia would have been so much better.
 
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Even more important than his excellent performances in Norway, is his increasing level of maturity. The team has done a good job there recently and it looks like there was some internal criticism. I already had the feeling that they put him on a leash during his appearance in Extra Time Koers after LBL.
If he can add calm and tactical awareness to his exceptional talent, he'll become a formidable force and we won't have to suffer through the reckless and unproductive behaviour we saw during the European road race in 2021 and Brabantse Pijl recently.

I am curious though how he's going to handle the World Championships in Australia if he completes the Vuelta at full throttle. We've seen that it's extremely hard to add top performances at the TT and RR after a GT. He may have to compromise.
 
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dazaau said:
Is this why Remco starts so many small stage races with low competition? Because to not win is seen as a failure?

According to the lantern rouge Remco put in the best climbing performance of the year in the tour of Norway, buy why don't we see him at the criterium de dauphine, Tirreno - no one is watching the tour of Norway during the giro :(
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He is not riding the Dauphiné because he's not riding the Tour. In addition, he has more time to recover from Norway not starting in the Dauphiné, but only to start in Switzerland on June 12th.
Your comment makes no sense. This year, the Tour of Switzerland is more difficult and has a stronger field of participants. Not a single flat ride, unlike in the Dauphiné. And the mountains and climbs are longer and higher.
 
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Logic-is-your-friend said:
He rides the Tour de Suisse instead of Dauphiné since he isn't riding the Tour but going to the Vuelta. The reason he has done so many small races, is because that was the plan in 2019-2020, due to his age when he became a pro right after leaving the juniors. The team made a schedule with many small races leading up to the 2020 Giro. But then Covid happened and the season got reshuffled and he crashed out during Lombardia before the Giro. He came back too soon and wasn't ready for the 2021 Giro, so the team let him ride smaller races again to slowly get him back to his best form. This year he has done Tirreno (11th), Itzulia (4th) and Liège (1st) already, which aren't exactly small races.
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Sweet, glad to hear he is doing Swiss. Leige was very impressive. I was wondering if it really was all hype, but that was a very strong performance. I'm sure it did him a world of good to get a big win in after a tough return following that crash. Look forward to seeing him climb when in form.

The vuelta is going to be one heck of a field the way it's going.
 
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For those who remember his Brabantse Pijl and more specifically his struggling on the cobbles of the Hertstraat:

He just uploaded a Strava training ride where he said he did the Hertstraat x5 and completed it fully in the gutter. :sweatsmile:

Training on his weaknesses combined with a bit of self-mockery it seems.
 
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Berflamand said:
For those who remember his Brabantse Pijl and more specifically his struggling on the cobbles of the Hertstraat:

He just uploaded a Strava training ride where he said he did the Hertstraat x5 and completed it fully in the gutter. :sweatsmile:

Training on his weaknesses combined with a bit of self-mockery it seems.
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He knows he's going to ride RvV and Roubaix later in his career. Not to mention that Belgian racers should know how to ride cobbles.
 
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Bonimenier said:
He was actually trying not to ride the cobbles on that ride.
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Certainly, which is the only way to ride Hertstraat. The problem with Remco on cobbles that I've seen is that he doesn't take the easy route and tries to power through them.

Given his TT abilities and his ability to pull away on flat slightly hilly surfaces, if he gets the techniques down doesn't try to overpower the cobbles he's cables of winning RvV and even more so Roubaix.
 
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LesDiablesRouges said:
He knows he's going to ride RvV and Roubaix later in his career. Not to mention that Belgian racers should know how to ride cobbles.
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Being Belgian would only mean a rider should know how they could ride cobbles. Being good at cobbles is as much a product of physical attributes as experience. Quintana actually handled cobbles well but I doubt he'd make a career of it.
 
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LesDiablesRouges said:
Certainly, which is the only way to ride Hertstraat. The problem with Remco on cobbles that I've seen is that he doesn't take the easy route and tries to power through them.

Given his TT abilities and his ability to pull away on flat slightly hilly surfaces, if he gets the techniques down doesn't try to overpower the cobbles he's cables of winning RvV and even more so Roubaix.
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Remco would be the lightest winner of Roubaix in a long time (Hinault I think), but otherwise the race should be perfect for his racing style, yeah.
 
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spalco said:
Remco would be the lightest winner of Roubaix in a long time (Hinault I think), but otherwise the race should be perfect for his racing style, yeah.
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Hinault's angry style of riding made him heavier than he actually was. He's Le Blaireau for a reason and we may never see another. Time has changed racing since then.
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and yet i have always said that if there is one rider he reminds me of, it is le blaireau.

attitude.

hargne.

riding quality.

the only thing i didn't think he had was hinault's sprint... but recent successes may suggest at least the ability to be the most powerful at the end of a tough race.
 
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Mkay, I'll leave Tom Dumoulin out of that list I posted earlier over there. For now. For as long as he's rested and ready for the comeback, no?
 
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Lafavere every time picking Evenepoel for a race

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