Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[Logic-is-your-friend]

We can all fantasize about that, but 4kg before the Giro isn't going to happen. Even if it would physically be possible to drop 4kg, it will come at a huge cost to try and do that in month and a bit.

Like i said two posts above yours, it was 4kg from his Vuelta weight, not his Giro weight.

I think he could realistically lose 2kg before the Giro, and as Didinho said, it's possible that they plan on losing a bit more by the last week of the Giro. (Though i'm not convinced losing weight during a GT is something to strive for, Dumoulin actually gained a bit of weight during the Giro he won).
It is also possible the 4kg claim was made either a while ago, or was a situation of a while ago which Bruyneel only heard about recently. Maybe at this moment, it's only 3kg. Maybe the claim was exaggerated and 3.1 kg became "more than three" which became "between 3 and 4" which became "almost 4" which became 4. Who knows.

 

[Riek s]

Like i said two posts above yours, it was 4kg from his Vuelta weight, not his Giro weight.

I think he could realistically lose 2kg before the Giro, and as Didinho said, it's possible that they plan on losing a bit more by the last week of the Giro. (Though i'm not convinced losing weight during a GT is something to strive for, Dumoulin actually gained a bit of weight during the Giro he won).
It is also possible the 4kg claim was made either a while ago, or was a situation of a while ago which Bruyneel only heard about recently. Maybe at this moment, it's only 3kg. Maybe the claim was exaggerated and 3.1 kg became "more than three" which became "between 3 and 4" which became "almost 4" which became 4. Who knows.

I agree, but I think you misinterpreted my comment. I was referring to losing weight before this Giro. (not in relation to a previous weight in a race).

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

I agree, but I think you misinterpreted my comment. I was referring to losing weight before this Giro. (not in relation to a previous weight in a race).

Oops, yes, i misread and assumed you meant like the 2021 Giro. I agree 4kg is not going to be happening, but i doubt he is still 4kg below his Vuelta weight (just speculating). I can't imagine them thinking it is a good idea to start a Giro with more climbing significantly heavier than the Vuelta he won. Unless they completely mistimed it all.

 

[Extinction]

His Veulta weight cannot have been 4 kg lighter, conidering his form at Catalunya and, if it was, then they have messed the timing up completely, as there is no way to loose 4 kg in circa a month, without losing power.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Like i said two posts above yours, it was 4kg from his Vuelta weight, not his Giro weight.

I think he could realistically lose 2kg before the Giro, and as Didinho said, it's possible that they plan on losing a bit more by the last week of the Giro. (Though i'm not convinced losing weight during a GT is something to strive for, Dumoulin actually gained a bit of weight during the Giro he won).
It is also possible the 4kg claim was made either a while ago, or was a situation of a while ago which Bruyneel only heard about recently. Maybe at this moment, it's only 3kg. Maybe the claim was exaggerated and 3.1 kg became "more than three" which became "between 3 and 4" which became "almost 4" which became 4. Who knows.

Agreed, judging by his looks (compared to the Vuelta) he can realistically lose 2-3 kg by the 3rd week of the Giro. As for losing weight during a 3 week race it probably depends on what is one's weight at it's start - if it's above what is regarded one's optimal weight then losing it should be ok, if it's already optimal then further mass reduction may be detrimental.

 

[houtdffan]

Oops, yes, i misread and assumed you meant like the 2021 Giro. I agree 4kg is not going to be happening, but i doubt he is still 4kg below his Vuelta weight (just speculating). I can't imagine them thinking it is a good idea to start a Giro with more climbing significantly heavier than the Vuelta he won. Unless they completely mistimed it all.

Unless the extra kilo is to provide additional power for the 2 early race TTs. 54.6km of flat ITT over the first 9 stages

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Unless the extra kilo is to provide additional power for the 2 early race TTs. 54.6km of flat ITT over the first 9 stages

I don't think you can shape power/mass like that during just one race because in this case it's not about 1 kilo of fat.

 

[houtdffan]

I don't think you can shape power/mass like that during just one race because in this case it's not about 1 kilo of fat.

I was thinking maybe sacrificed climbing a little in favor of a little stronger in the TT

 

[Krzysztof_O]

I was thinking maybe sacrificed climbing a little in favor of a little stronger in the TT

I got it but for a moment I thought that you considered this an additional kilo that can be dropped during the race.

 

[Andre]

oh NO!!!! Logic is your friend banned again. Just ahead of the Flanders Tour. This sucks. Go Remco Go!

 

[Lequack]

oh NO!!!! Logic is your friend banned again. Just ahead of the Flanders Tour. This sucks. Go Remco Go!

What? This is just crazy, he was just commenting as usual, what the hell is going on.

 

[Escarabajo]

What happened to Logic? did Remco got to his head too much?

 

[Bonimenier]

What happened to Logic? did Remco got to his head too much?

He's making sure he can start the Giro unbanned.

 

[gregrowlerson]

What? This is just crazy, he was just commenting as usual, what the hell is going on.

Maybe he has empathetically left us for a month in an attempt to lose 2-4 kgs.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Maybe he has empathetically left us for a month in an attempt to lose 2-4 kgs.

I think you nailed it. Logic and Remco are not two different people...

 

[frisenfruitig]

I'm also curious why he was banned. Didn't see anything special but perhaps some comments were removed.

 

[Lequack]

I'm also curious why he was banned. Didn't see anything special but perhaps some comments were removed.

Probably said Remco is number one, but mods listen to Chris Horner and know who is number one cyclist!

 

[BR2]

I think you nailed it. Logic and Remco are not two different people...

I'm pretty sure they are. I don't think Remco would promote van Wilder like that.

 

[RedheadDane]

I'm pretty sure they are. I don't think Remco would promote van Wilder like that.

From what I understand, Evenepoel and Van Wilder gets along quite well. You don't think Evenepoel would promote his friend?

 

[BR2]

From what I understand, Evenepoel and Van Wilder gets along quite well. You don't think Evenepoel would promote his friend?

Would he spend so much energy on it?

 

[Ilmaestro99]

From what I understand, Evenepoel and Van Wilder gets along quite well. You don't think Evenepoel would promote his friend?

Evenepole and Masnada get along very well but logic always trying to wind me up by poking fun at Fausto

 

[frisenfruitig]

Evenepole and Masnada get along very well but logic always trying to wind me up by poking fun at Fausto

Totally uncalled for, Masnada is an excellent domestique for Evenepoel.

 

[Bonimenier]

Evenepole and Masnada get along very well but logic always trying to wind me up by poking fun at Fausto

To be fair Masnada makes it very easy to do so.

 

[tobydawq]

It seems like it was an admin who didn't understand that he wasn't accusing Van Aert for doping but implying that the French people might be glad that Gaudu could beat a "doped Van Aert", as in, the masses thinking well-performing riders are all doping, as long as it's not riders from their own country. I thought it was pretty clear what he meant but apparently not.

He wrote to me on Twitter with a screenshot of the post that has since been deleted.

 

[Lequack]

It seems like it was an admin who didn't understand that he wasn't accusing Van Aert for doping but implying that the French people might be glad that Gaudu could beat a "doped Van Aert", as in, the masses thinking well-performing riders are all doping, as long as it's not riders from their own country. I thought it was pretty clear what he meant but apparently not.

He wrote to me on Twitter with a screenshot of the post that has since been deleted.

Well that sucks. I will will understand if it's a one day ban at most, but even that seems harsh.
PS: Also I know we're being off topic, as this belongs in the Moderation thread:

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