Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[Extinction]

What he accomplished is also merit from Quick step. They developed him really well since he was young.

Quick step have a good staff, and today he already showed better indications, but like i said, people should the expectations around him in terms of Grand Tours. He is in the right track for the Tour, and peak in the last week.
He said he wanted to do top 5 and win some stages.

He will be more of one day racer in the future and specialist in Time trials, like he already is, and in Grand Tours he will do good results, but he will not be as dominant as can be in one day races and Time trials, because he will never be a pure climber.

But the "pure climber" mantra is old school isn't it? I mean sport science knows it's a matter of watts per kilogram. They thus must work on optimalization. It's useless to point on the Tour if the factors aren't propitious. But to be there you have to get the balance right, ie, weight per kg. They would do well to risk a bit in the TT to gain more in the mountains.

 

[Extinction]

Good performance from Remco today IMO. Looked better. His face also wasn't completely swollen

Exactly! He needs to be gaunt in the face, with no fat to pinch in the legs and have a skiny waist and arms, without losing power. This is the magic formula.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Good performance from Remco today IMO. Looked better. His face also wasn't completely swollen

Yeah, looked more like a planned training Dauphine, Nibali-style.

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

Good performance from Remco today IMO. Looked better. His face also wasn't completely swollen

It's because the stage suited him much better. Like I said after yesterday's stage.

 

[Froome]

Yeah, looked more like a planned training Dauphine, Nibali-style.

This is the right preparation for the Tour 2024, because the route is backloaded in the last 8 days.

I don't root for Evenepoel but if he continues to improve "nibali style", they are doing the right preparation to peak in the last week of the Tour.

Personally, if will be possible, i hope Visma are doing the same with Vingegaard, to peak in the last week of the Tour.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Yes, it’s a joke, if someone is really fat, it
must be me, currently at 85kgs!
Ps: Remco doesn’t care about being called fat, but logic is obsessed with him calling that way. And in his case, he’s not joking.

I'm glad you are here to inform people when i'm joking or not.

I already replied to your post. He wants to be a GC/GT rider, then we should be able to discuss his weight, which is one of the most important factors for GC riders, in case you didn't know. He obviously isn't "fat" but he is way too heavy for a GC rider who wants to contest the TDF. That's a simple fact.

 

[AmRacer]

I'm glad you are here to inform people when i'm joking or not.

I already replied to your post. He wants to be a GC/GT rider, then we should be able to discuss his weight, which is one of the most important factors for GC riders, in case you didn't know. He obviously isn't "fat" but he is way too heavy for a GC rider who wants to contest the TDF. That's a simple fact.

Logic 😁

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Absolutely blows my mind that this guy won a GT

 

[AmRacer]

Absolutely blows my mind that this guy won a GT

It wasn't wright, was it?

 

[Mayomaniac]

Absolutely blows my mind that this guy won a GT

Look at pictures of 2022 Donostia/Vuelta Evenepoel. Clearly a few kg lighter, he actually looked like a gt rider.

 

[Didinho]

He just dropped some %’s again.

It’s 85-90% max. Now we all know 😁

 

[Andre]

He just dropped some %’s again.

It’s 85-90% max. Now we all know 😁

what percentages?

 

[Ripper]

He needs to lose upper body muscle mass. Like this he's going nowhere at the Tour.

Yup.

There seems to be a school of thought among some riders/coaches that in order to do certain parts of the sport better, you need to bulk up a bit. And I don't mean strength train per se, more the way they go about it. It is not something I really agree with ... it is a bit old school. Of course, some people put on muscle easier than others, so then that can really add up to some extra kilos that is not really going to be of much benefit on the bike going uphill. And I don't really think that muscle mass helps a whole heck of a lot in TTs either.

So we agree the dude totally needs to lose some mass. And he likely needs to find a way to 'reset' what is optimal for himself, so he does not yo-yo so much.

Is SQS full of old school clowns now that their famous doc moved to another team?

 

[Andre]

One of my favourite moments was when Remco crushed Vingo and everyone else at the stage in La Vuelta . He then crashed into a bystander after the finish line cause the setup was so bad. That's the kind of power he needs to recapture. Although later on it didn't go so well.

 

[Ripper]

The problem is the expectations around him. He is still on good track for the goals he wanted to achieve in the Tour 2024. He is not ready yet to win the Tour, he is still young, and he needs time to continue to improve as a GC rider. The weight is important, but is not all about that.

He will never be a pure climber. He will win Grand Tours in the future, in the style Miguel Indurain won.

Clinical part not included, he will only win Big Mig style if the amount of TT increases dramatically from the current norm.

 

[AmRacer]

One of my favourite moments was when Remco crushed Vingo and everyone else at the stage in La Vuelta . He then crashed into a bystander after the finish line cause the setup was so bad. That's the kind of power he needs to recapture. Although later on it didn't go so well.

Was that the Vuelta after Jonas won TdF? And wasn't Jonas feeling ill then.

 

[Andre]

Was that the Vuelta after Jonas won TdF? And wasn't Jonas feeling ill then.

I think trying to follow Remco is what made Jonas ill.

 

[Froome]

Clinical part not included, he will only win Big Mig style if the amount of TT increases dramatically from the current norm.

That's one of the reasons joining the fact i don't believe he will be a better climber than the other two, that i think in the end of his career he will win some Grand Tours (but not a lot of them), but in contrast will win a lot of monuments, one week races and Time trials.

I think he has all the tools to be the best one day racer.

 

[Froome]

"I understand that people may have doubts, but I don't care" - Remco Evenepoel retains faith in Tour de France challenge despite more Dauphine time loss

Remco Evenepoel didn't have the best day on stage 7 of the 2024 Criterium du Dauphine. The Soudal - Quick-Step leader was dropped with 7km to go on the final climb on stage, dropping from 2nd in the g...

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Posed with these comments post-stage, Evenepoel admitted he is bigger than would like at this moment. "That is obvious. I'm not at Tour weight yet," he explains. "I also took a break for three weeks. I am someone who can easily gain two kilos at that time. That will be gone by the most important moments in the Tour. I know myself well enough.”

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

Remco will never win the Tour. Not this year, or any other year.

 

[Froome]

Remco will never win the Tour. Not this year, or any other year.

Mate, Thomas doesn't have half of the talent of Evenepoel, and he won the Tour. Sometimes, being in the right place at the right time, plus some ilness or bad luck or other goals from some top GT rider, and it happens.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

"I understand that people may have doubts, but I don't care" - Remco Evenepoel retains faith in Tour de France challenge despite more Dauphine time loss

Remco Evenepoel didn't have the best day on stage 7 of the 2024 Criterium du Dauphine. The Soudal - Quick-Step leader was dropped with 7km to go on the final climb on stage, dropping from 2nd in the g...

cyclinguptodate.com

Posed with these comments post-stage, Evenepoel admitted he is bigger than would like at this moment. "That is obvious. I'm not at Tour weight yet," he explains. "I also took a break for three weeks. I am someone who can easily gain two kilos at that time. That will be gone by the most important moments in the Tour. I know myself well enough.”

When he says easily 2, that means it could very well be a lot more than 2 as well.
And "gone by the most important moments in the Tour" makes me think they intent to have him lose weight during the Tour. Risky.

 

[Froome]

When he says easily 2, that means it could very well be a lot more than 2 as well.
And "gone by the most important moments in the Tour" makes me think they intent to have him lose weight during the Tour.

The last 8 days of race.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

The last 8 days of race.

Yes, i know what he means. I'm saying that losing weight during a GT, is not something that lot of GC riders do anymore, for good reason.

 

[Volderke]

I'm glad you are here to inform people when i'm joking or not.

I already replied to your post. He wants to be a GC/GT rider, then we should be able to discuss his weight, which is one of the most important factors for GC riders, in case you didn't know.

stop the pedantic behaviour. Chillax.

He obviously isn't "fat" but he is way too heavy for a GC rider who wants to contest the TDF. That's a simple fact.

He is too heavy, he himself admitted this. He literally said in the interview, yesterday, he needs to shed 2kgs and is working on it, and he is, weight-wise, where he is now, because (and I quote) he had '3 weeks off the bike'. You can be severely disappointed Remco gained weight (or didn't loose weight) during those 3 weeks off the bike, but as we tend to say: c'est la vie. Deal with it. Don't nag about it the whole time. You've beaten the topic to death, enough is enough.