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Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

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Well I don't know that it's that much down to overall fatigue, considering Zoncolan was much faster in 2018 than in 2014 and 2011, and 2011 still had the Gardecchia stage as well and probably had the overall hardest route. I think it's more likely to be day by day variation. Pratonevoso the day before was fast.

On a single raceday I think fatigue can be used much more easily to explain variation in performance than over an entire Grand Tour.
About that Almeida graph, it really shows hm much of an outliner that Piancavallo stage was.
 
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His win percentage (of GCs > 2.1) is also impressive: 43% (9/21). I believe only Pogacar does better of all active riders (10/21). For a fair comparison it's probably best to look at the first 30 GCs max or so but I believe that doesn't change the outcome. The average quality of his wins are of course less than Pogacar and a few others on the list but it is still an impressive stat for a 22 year old.
 
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Does he go back to altitude camp before June 12th (TDS)?

looks like stage 1 could be a trademark raid to get some time before the high mountains. However, with the bump up in competition he may reserve efforts to the stage with climbs above 2000m and the final TT. And what’s the team around him? Couldn’t help but notice that he had to position himself several times without any assistance from a teammate in Norway.
 
Does he go back to altitude camp before June 12th (TDS)?

looks like stage 1 could be a trademark raid to get some time before the high mountains. However, with the bump up in competition he may reserve efforts to the stage with climbs above 2000m and the final TT. And what’s the team around him? Couldn’t help but notice that he had to position himself several times without any assistance from a teammate in Norway.

On PCS, Van Wilder and Schmid are the only two names down for it so far BUT they also have van Wilder riding the Tour of Belgium. Doh.

Meanwhile Bagioli and Cavagna are at Dauphine so they won't be there.

It would be nice if Ala lent him Devenyns as a minder.
 
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Interesting to see he's regressed as a climber as well as TT'er since joining UAE.
 
On PCS, Van Wilder and Schmid are the only two names down for it so far BUT they also have van Wilder riding the Tour of Belgium. Doh.

Meanwhile Bagioli and Cavagna are at Dauphine so they won't be there.

It would be nice if Ala lent him Devenyns as a minder.
Van Wilder is at altitude after his crash in Liège. Depending on how his recovery/development goes, it will be either one or the other.
 
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Yes, Bernal and Pogacar did/do. But it remains to be seen whether this continues. Wiggins (with good results before on track) was 29 when he finished third in the Tour. He was 32 when he won his only Tour. Thomas was 32. Froome was 28 for his first win. Nibali was 29. So, Bernal and Pogacar are still exceptions.
Bernal and Pogačar are like the big champions before the EPO era, showing their quality at a young age, like Hinault, Merckx, LeMond, etc. Guys who sucked for years then magically came good in their very late 20’s are not the norm historically.
 
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Interesting to see he's regressed as a climber as well as TT'er since joining UAE.
Regressing is maybe exagerated. But he certainly hasn't made any progress since he left Lefevere . That was perfectly predictable. Hopefully for him, at the end of his contract with UAE, he can reach a better level with a more suitable team. Because he may not be a top rider, but he is certainly one of the better subtoppers.
 
Bernal and Pogačar are like the big champions before the EPO era, showing their quality at a young age, like Hinault, Merckx, LeMond, etc. Guys who sucked for years then magically came good in their very late 20’s are not the norm historically.
We all known what happened inside the Sky-team. No doubt. But it's a bit too easy to put everything on doping. Wiggins had a strong carreer on track before. And Merckx ? He took doping since joung age. There were also doping suspicions at Hinault and Lemond.
 
We all known what happened inside the Sky-team. No doubt. But it's a bit too easy to put everything on doping. Wiggins had a strong carreer on track before. And Merckx ? He took doping since joung age. There were also doping suspicions at Hinault and Lemond.
Once riders who were superior by mother nature had a chance to win big at a young age. Then this stopped being the case for a while, but has suddenly come back with a roar. It could be just a blessed generation or it could be that talent scouts and advanced methodologies starting at the junior level have reversed the trend. As in all things, however, it's probably a messure of both.
 
Once riders who were superior by mother nature had a chance to win big at a young age. Then this stopped being the case for a while, but has suddenly come back with a roar. It could be just a blessed generation or it could be that talent scouts and advanced methodologies starting at the junior level have reversed the trend. As in all things, however, it's probably a messure of both.
These young guys would have competed just fine in the 2000s given their power numbers. edit: probably more of a clinic topic :D
 
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