Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Feels like Remco is certainly strong enough to win this Paris-Nice, but the tactical outplay (and the weather during the TTT) had a bad influence on his odds. He'll need a raid tomorrow to pull it off. Hope he will put all his cards on the table.

I'd like to hear from Klaas Lodewyck what the point was of having Vervaeke pull for 10km when even guys like Politt were able to follow. Evenepoel will lose a lot of close races in his career with that kind of brainpower in de car.

 

[Netserk]

I don't think the car picked the spots of his attacks. So blame the brainpower on the bike.

 

[Didinho]

Gonna be hard to win GC, but he only needs to look at Jorgenson and Skjelmose if you see McNulty today.
22” (with boni) on a stage like tomorrow is possible if your better, hope he goes early and makes the stage harder. He won’t go out without a fight.

 

[houtdffan]

McNulty is no threat

Skejlmose can be defeated in a flat sprint at the line

Jorgenson is the dangerman

Remco would be ahead of Skejlmose had Van Wilder not idiotically tried to take the bonus seconds from Bernal

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Gonna be hard to win GC, but he only needs to look at Jorgenson and Skjelmose if you see McNulty today.
22” (with boni) on a stage like tomorrow is possible if your better, hope he goes early and makes the stage harder. He won’t go out without a fight.

If he can go solo, he needs to take 28 seconds to be sure assuming McNulty won't be able to stick with Jorgenson who could still take 6" at the finish in this scenario. If Jorgenson can't take any boni seconds, and Evenepoel can take them at the intermediate as well, he only needs to gain 16s on Jorgenson.

Remco would be ahead of Skejlmose had Van Wilder not idiotically tried to take the bonus seconds from Bernal

The fault was Evenepoel's, who was staying too far back too close to the sprint and waited too long to respond. He should have been in Van Wilder's wheel but he wasn't. Van Wilder doesn't have eyes in his back.

 

[Salvarani]

McNulty is consistently very good in medium mountains. I'm not sure why we blindly assume he just collapses.

Evenepoel wasn't putting big time into him for fun.

Yeah, but he has a target on his back since he is in the lead and his team is not riding very convincingly here. He will have to be very good tomorrow.

He lost a similar stage in Basque Country, while being in the lead.

Dropped today and had to dig deep.

It seems more sensible to back Jorgenson or someone else for the overall win, than McNulty being able to hold on for me.

 

[Snake]

with all the descents in the stage I don't see Remco pulling one of his show, visma guy has this in the bag.

 

[joseph89]

Time to face facts, remco is never going to podium another GT if he stays with SOQ, they don't have the budget to attract the best climbers and even if they did, the best climbers would rather sign else where. Typical sunk-cost fallacy!

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Time to face facts, remco is never going to podium another GT if he stays with SOQ, they don't have the budget to attract the best climbers and even if they did, the best climbers would rather sign else where. Typical sunk-cost fallacy!

Van Wilder was good today, but AWOL yesterday. Today Cattaneo went MIA. There is still Landa, so let's see. You don't need a super strong team to podium a GT. I think there are other problems he will face at SQS.

 

[Extinction]

Time to face facts, remco is never going to podium another GT if he stays with SOQ, they don't have the budget to attract the best climbers and even if they did, the best climbers would rather sign else where. Typical sunk-cost fallacy!

Simply put you can't, or it's highly unlikely, in today's cycling win the Tour on a second-tier budget team. It's disagreeable, but this is the blunt reality.

 

[joseph89]

Maybe time to switch trainer? Pelgrim's fine tuning is just not cutting it.

 

[Extinction]

Maybe time to switch trainer? Pelgrim's fine tuning is just not cutting it.

He needs, and the team, to up his/their game and we've been saying this for three years now. Now, either he doesn't have the physical ability to do so or he needs another organization. If he never goes to one, I fear his fate is sealed in Don Patrick's squadra.

 

[Unchained]

Time to face facts, remco is never going to podium another GT if he stays with SOQ, they don't have the budget to attract the best climbers and even if they did, the best climbers would rather sign else where. Typical sunk-cost fallacy!

Team looked okay today, they set pace pretty good, Landa is a solid teammate

 

[joseph89]

Team looked okay today, they set pace pretty good, Landa is a solid teammate

The team couldn't pace hard enough to hurt guys like Jorgenson and Skjelmose. One solid team mate does not make a winning team.

 

[AmRacer]

The team couldn't pace hard enough to hurt guys like Jorgenson and Skjelmose. One solid team mate does not make a winning team.

Exactly the same for Rogla with Vlasov.

 

[Andre]

01		UAE Team Emirates	75:11:43​
02		Team Visma | Lease a Bike	+ 06:20​
03		INEOS Grenadiers	+ 10:25​
04		Soudal Quick-Step	+ 11:31​

not a bad team at all

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

The team couldn't pace hard enough to hurt guys like Jorgenson and Skjelmose. One solid team mate does not make a winning team.

Jorgenson and Skjelmose are pretty good on a race like this. Basically only UAE and Visma with their A-team could smash riders of this quality on such a shallow climb.

 

[Berniece]

01		UAE Team Emirates	75:11:43​
02		Team Visma | Lease a Bike	+ 06:20​
03		INEOS Grenadiers	+ 10:25​
04		Soudal Quick-Step	+ 11:31​

not a bad team at all

Not really

 

[Sciatic]

Exactly the same for Rogla with Vlasov.

But BORA wasn’t trying that tactic of having the team at front to wear down the bunch, so that’s not a comparison that’s relevant. As for the Tour, Roglic having Hindley (who looked great today in T-A) is a bigger help to Roglic than Landa will be for Remco.

 

[joseph89]

Jorgenson and Skjelmose are pretty good on a race like this. Basically only UAE and Visma with their A-team could smash riders of this quality on such a shallow climb.

You're making my point for me, remco has no chance at podiuming a GT if his team can't even beat 2/3 tier GC riders

 

[AmRacer]

But BORA wasn’t trying that tactic of having the team at front to wear down the bunch, so that’s not a comparison that’s relevant. As for the Tour, Roglic having Hindley (who looked great today in T-A) is a bigger help to Roglic than Landa will be for Remco.

Rogla has the exactly same situation as Remco. Neither team can pace hard enough to drop or hurt UAE and VLAB key domestiques.

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

You're making my point for me, remco has no chance at podiuming a GT if his team can't even beat 2/3 tier GC riders

Those things are not necessarily connected. If you said he had no chance of winning the team would be very relevant. But to podium, for example third behind Vingegaard and Pog I think the team is almost a non-existent issue.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Maybe time to switch trainer? Pelgrim's fine tuning is just not cutting it.

This has been my concern for some years now. Lodewyck sitting in the car, and Pelgrim seemingly not being able to get the most out of him. I also wonder why everybody is going on altitude camps (most of his competitors in PN seem to have been) but he will only go after Liège according to what i've heard.

 

[Ripper]

This has been my concern for some years now. Lodewyck sitting in the car, and Pelgrim seemingly not being able to get the most out of him. I also wonder why everybody is going on altitude camps (most of his competitors in PN seem to have been) but he will only go after Liège according to what i've heard.

Yup, boyo needs to change training.

I might add, with some of the clinical precision of his competitors

 

[Ripper]

Is it just me, or does Remco have a lot of could've would've should'ves?