The Sidebar Thread

[gooner]

Yes I have no issue with it. How many more times!
But why can't I use martin's one? When he has been very quick to use his twitter to interact with me about doping and my failings on same.
I asked was it him? Didn't announce anything. Name address. It's not set on private.

Yes, on twitter which should be kept there. There's a name on that account which points to someone's personal identity and do you think we're blind that we wouldn't be able to see it? I don't know if it's Martin's account but you bringing it in here was a low attempt to try an out someone's ID. It only adds to the impression it was the actions of a person, that doesn't have much of an argument to go on. MartinV has never referenced that account on the forum, unlike yourself who has done it on numerous occasions while using the same username as on this place. You broke clear forum rules in this area. Serious ones for the forum going forward.

 

[martinvickers]

I think it's more than fair game to bring in your account here. On numerous occasions you like to mention your interactions on their like your past ones with JV. It's under a username the same as on the forum and only in the last day or two, you had no problem in referring to it out of nowhere about Richard Moore threatening to sue you.

If the mods are consistent, then this should be dealt with. They're clear rules in this area and a poster's personal details are entitled to be protected if they want to keep their anonymity.

Don't hold your breath, gooner. The pathetic attempt to 'out' a poster's identity, coupled with a blatant if lauaghable attempt to intimidate, as noted by several posters...and of course, the classic Digger backtrack when confronted with it. One thing can usually be guaranteed; bullies when confronted are usually cowards.

Note also above, The miscreant was taking some weird delight in other people's ban history. Given he's clearly got a get out of jail free card, one can understand his glee - he thinks he's untouchable.

Will the mods do their job on this and prove that wrong? As I said. don't hold your breath.

 

[Digger]

Yes, on twitter which should be kept there. There's a name on that account which points to someone's personal identity and do you think we're blind that we wouldn't be able to see it? I don't know if it's Martin's account but you bringing it in here was a low attempt to try an out someone's ID. It only adds to the impression it was the actions of a person, that doesn't have much of an argument to go on. MartinV has never referenced that account on the forum, unlike yourself who has done it on numerous occasions while using the same username as on this place. You broke clear forum rules in this area. Serious ones for the forum going forward.

Never? My interactions with JV...with Velocast...never, really? My comments on other things...never?

 

[martinvickers]

Never? My interactions with JV...with Velocast...never, really? My comments on other things...never?

He was clearly saying that I had never referred to 'MY' twitter account on this forum.

Now who can't read.

 

[Digger]

Don't hold your breath, gooner. The pathetic attempt to 'out' a poster's identity, coupled with a blatant attempt to intimidate, as noted by several posters...and of course, the classic Digger backtrack when confronted with it.
Note above, The miscreant was taking some weird delight in other people's ban history. Given he's clearly got a get out of jail free card, one can understand his glee - he thinks he's untouchable.

Will the mods do their job on this and prove that wrong? As I said. don't hold your breath.

You are a hypocrite...twitter lasy year ring a bell?!!

Using my twitter on here...hypocrite...

And you still haven't addressed your threat to me yesterday.

 

[Digger]

He was clearly saying that I had never referred to 'MY' twitter account on this forum.

Now who can't read.

have you referenced my interactions with those people for example in the last day or two? Yes or no?

And again, you talk about putting out identities...do you remember last summer on twitter by any chance?

You can give it no problem....

Also did you or not use an initial of my name on here in the last two days in posts to me?

 

[Digger]

Don't hold your breath, gooner. The pathetic attempt to 'out' a poster's identity, coupled with a blatant if lauaghable attempt to intimidate, as noted by several posters...and of course, the classic Digger backtrack when confronted with it. One thing can usually be guaranteed; bullies when confronted are usually cowards.

Note also above, The miscreant was taking some weird delight in other people's ban history. Given he's clearly got a get out of jail free card, one can understand his glee - he thinks he's untouchable.

Will the mods do their job on this and prove that wrong? As I said. don't hold your breath.

Aren't you the one who apologised to me last year and then hadn't the balls to go with it and said after an hour it was a joke...or aren't you the one who called me something else but then retracted it...

 

[martinvickers]

You are a hypocrite...twitter lasy year ring a bell?!!

Using my twitter on here...hypocrite...

Temper, temper. those anger issues....

It's rather simple. You have raised your own twitter on here before. And your twitter has exactly the same nom de guerre as this forum account. No name. no personal details. One and the same persona.

I didn't out your facebook, or your linkedin, which actually have your name, school, address etc, nor, despite what you have said, have I ever used your real name on this forum. That, too, was a lie

You on the other hand, with no context, and no relevance to the discussion at hand, simply 'outed' a twitter profile with a clear name attached. And we know why you did it. At least have the courage of your threats.

And you still haven't addressed your threat to me yesterday.

What threat? Did I suggest I'd meet you somewhere on our small island, as you did? you already admitted this morning you have no 'desire to meet me' - yet in that remark you said, with no context

"looking forward to meeting you...small island...exciting times!! "

That's a pretty obvious veiled threat to which I responded with an admonition that for your sake, it better not be. Absolutely correct, I might add.

you're drowning in your own hypocrisy, having shown yourself for who, and what, you are. Which is ironic, really.

 

[martinvickers]

Also did you or not use an initial of my name on here in the last two days in posts to me?

You claimed I used your name. You now admit I didn't, yes?

Good. One lie down. umpteen to go.

The idea that you are tracable by a single initial is farcical. I didn't use your name. You, however, tried to 'out' me, following a clear veiled threat that you now run away from under pressure.

Pathetic.

 

[Digger]

Temper, temper. those anger issues....

It's rather simple. You have raised your own twitter on here before. And your twitter has exactly the same nom de guerre as this forum account. No name. no personal details. One and the same persona.

I didn't out your facebook, or your linkedin, which actually have your name, school, address etc, nor, despite what you have said, have I ever used your real name on this forum. That, too, was a lie

You on the other hand, with no context, and no relevance to the discussion at hand, simply 'outed' a twitter profile with a clear name attached. And we know why you did it. At least have the courage of your threats.



What threat? Did I suggest I'd meet you somewhere on our small island, as you did? you already admitted this morning you have no 'desire to meet me' - yet in that remark you said, with no context



That's a pretty obvious veiled threat to which I responded with an admonition that for your sake, it better not be. Absolutely correct, I might add.

you're drowning in your own hypocrisy, having shown yourself for who, and what, you are. Which is ironic, really.

Threat...

 

[Digger]

You claimed I used your name. You now admit I didn't, yes?

Good. One lie down. umpteen to go.

The idea that you are tracable by a single initial is farcical. I didn't use your name. You, however, tried to 'out' me, following a clear veiled threat that you now run away from under pressure.

Pathetic.

So we are clear here - you can use my twitter account, but others aren't...yet you have used that account to interact with me inthe past...to amongst other things apologise...and call me something you retracted...you talk of cowards...time and again last year on twitter i saw people confront you and you would back down...shane stokes for example

 

[martinvickers]

Threat...

You take that quote to the mods, and see if they consider it a threat. Please, go right ahead...

...as compared to the clear hints of physical confrontation you dropped (not to mention your previous blatant threats of violence to others - as I say, you have form).

 

[gooner]

Aren't you the one who apologised to me last year and then hadn't the balls to go with it and said after an hour it was a joke...or aren't you the one who called me something else but then retracted it...

If that is MartinV's account, that was set up for one purpose, personal use away from this forum with no link to this place. What you say above is something that stays on twitter between you and the person involved as the forum is not the platform to discuss it.

Why haven't the mods dealt with this yet? I seen your post late last night referring to this twitter account and I find it staggering this has still be allowed to role on with you still posting here as you please as if nothing was done wrong.

It sets a dangerous precedent.

 

[Digger]

You take that quote to the mods, and see if they consider it a threat. Please, go right ahead...

...as compared to the clear hints of physical confrontation you dropped (not to mention your previous blatant threats of violence to others - as I say, you have form).

Lies...where was violence mentioned!...Martin did you or not mention you might know my friends because it;s a small island before me

So yes or no, is someone on here allowed reference your twitter feed and what you'v said in and around these issues?

And talking of cowardly actions you still have not addressed the comparison between what you complaining about here today and the way you behaved on twitter last summer.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

So we are clear here - you can use my twitter account, but others aren't...yet you have used that account to interact with me inthe past...to amongst other things apologise...and call me something you retracted...you talk of cowards...time and again last year on twitter i saw people confront you and you would back down...shane stokes for example

Ya - he can use your twitter.
You have it expressly set up for it - the same way you use 'Digger forum' is the same as my DrM account. It does not reveal real life identities, just your views or opinions.

You did not reveal a tweet or interaction between you & MV, you linked to their name.

 

[Digger]

If that is MartinV's account, that was set up for one purpose, personal use away from this forum with no link to this place. What you say above is something that stays on twitter between you and the person involved as the forum is not the platform to discuss it.

Why haven't the mods dealt with this yet? I seen your post late last night referring to this twitter account and I find it staggering this has still be allowed to role on with you still posting here as you please as if nothing was done wrong.

It sets a dangerous precedent.

Nothing was done wrong.

So again eventhoug martin tweets doping stuff and often replied and talked about me on twitter, and references my page...i can't reference him!! This is facrical logic.

 

[Digger]

Ya - he can use your twitter.
You have it expressly set up for it - the same way you use 'Digger forum' is the same as my DrM account. It does not reveal real life identities, just your views or opinions.

You did not reveal a tweet or interaction between you & MV, you linked to their name.

I linked to their twitter handle which i did not know was their real name...i asked was it him.

 

[gooner]

Lies...where was violence mentioned!...Martin did you or not mention you might know my friends because it;s a small island before me

So yes or no, is someone on here allowed reference your twitter feed and what you'v said in and around these issues?

No, not when it's one for personal use with their identity involved. If the person has the same username as this place and has referenced things on it to the forum, then yes, I do think it's fair game. MartinV has never mentioned a twitter account he has and you have brought one in here with no clear certainty that this was indeed his which proves the point.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

I linked to their twitter handle which i did not know was their real name...i asked was it him.

And why did you do that? It had no relevance to this forum in any way.

 

[gooner]

I linked to their twitter handle which i did not know was their real name...i asked was it him.

Oh please. Do me a favour.

 

[Digger]

Oh please. Do me a favour.

So he can use mine, i can't use his...eventhough he has often interacted with me, argued with me, argued with other journos...

hypocrisy...amazing

 

[Digger]

And why did you do that? It had no relevance to this forum in any way.

In the context of the tone, him referencing my twitter, where he is coming from, the way he previously tweeted about me and how it was continuing on here, yes it was relevant.

 

[martinvickers]

Lies...where was violence mentioned!

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpost.php?p=1215056&postcount=346

"I will f***ing fight anyone who says anything against him on this"

Second hand it may be, but it's on this forum and it's a threat, directly by you, of violence.

As I said, you have form. Not honesty, sadly. But form, none the less.

 

[gooner]

So he can use mine, i can't use his...eventhough he has often interacted with me, argued with me, argued with other journos...

hypocrisy...amazing

Oh deary me, you just don't get it. It's personal use and don't give me this that you weren't sure it might be their real name on the handle.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

In the context of the tone, him referencing my twitter, where he is coming from, the way he previously tweeted about me and how it was continuing on here, yes it was relevant.

No it is not.

If it had you would have quoted a tweet, or some actual reference that is relevant. You didn't - you outed their twitter name which reveals their personal name.

Again - if you do have some animosity on twitter, then why bring it up here?