I fear for Alberto ... but remember he has already been bitten - this is the first time for LA and Postal Guysboladelmundo said:Dearest Alberto Contador didn't say a thing and has always said he has no enough information to form his opinion. One would wonder what or how he did while working under Johan Bruyneel.
That is probably because he had his own doping program with the permission of Bruyneel.boladelmundo said:Dearest Alberto Contador didn't say a thing and has always said he has no enough information to form his opinion. One would wonder what or how he did while working under Johan Bruyneel.
TourOfSardinia said:I fear for Alberto ... but remember he has already been bitten - this is the first time for LA and Postal Guys
I'm sure the Russian will take care of that.TourOfSardinia said:I fear for Alberto ... but remember he has already been bitten - this is the first time for LA and Postal Guys
Simple, he covered his a$$.benzwire said:One guy that I've always liked is Bobby Julich. He was on Cofidis, Credit Agricole, Telekon, CSC, and now works for SKY. I don't pretend, however, that he's ridden clean, but he has certainly slipped under the radar. I guess he was "rider #4" in the USADA report too.
I wouldn't want the guy to lose his job at SKY, but I still hated his fake reaction when Basso was dropped by CSC. Looking back at US Postal and all those guys sitting by while anyone that questioned "the myth" was attacked, saying nothing as if they were clueless to what was going on, it is ridiculous. Julich acted much the same way when Basso was let go. He acted as if he was dismayed and clueless that Basso could have doped. Looking at the teams with which he's been involved, his relationships with Riis, Basso, the Schlecks, and yes even Jens, how the hell would he not have a clue about any involvement in doping, let alone his partaking in it.
I personally think the guy is very knowledgable and a genuinely nice person, but he doesn't get a free pass any more than Dave Z, Levi, CVV, or anyone else of that generation of US riders. I wonder if he will have to come forward eventually to explain his experiences.
I definitely agree, but so have many others until they ultimately had no other choice (subpoenaed). Luckily he was never one of Armstrong's crew.rhubroma said:Simple, he covered his a$$.
because whatever they say people will backlash on them anyway. it's best to keep silent a bit and read the actual whole report. do you think these guys have no lifes outside of cycling? many of them are on holiday finally after a long seasonthehog said:Cadel Evans
Chris Froome
Chris Horner
- anyone else saying jack all and hiding away?
Well, of course Julich was clean. I mean, Sky has a zero tolerance policy, so how could he have doped? Imagine how shocked and disappointed Brailsford will be if he doped?benzwire said:One guy that I've always liked is Bobby Julich. He was on Cofidis, Credit Agricole, Telekon, CSC, and now works for SKY. I don't pretend, however, that he's ridden clean, but he has certainly slipped under the radar.
Laura Meseguer should ask them ..oh wait.. nnaaaah she won't ever as those things happened in the pasthrotha said:But this is probably the biggest thing to have happened in cycling history. You'd think some journos would think of asking them.
Kevin Livingstonthehog said:Cadel Evans
Chris Froome
Chris Horner
- anyone else saying jack all and hiding away?
Why you point out Froome, and not Schleck, Contador etc.thehog said:Cadel Evans
Chris Froome
Chris Horner
- anyone else saying jack all and hiding away?
Most Spanish "journalists" are a disgrace. I had a brief Twitter discussion with Eurosport commentator Antonio Alix about this, where he basically said trying to change the culture and educate the masses on this matter is pointless and that nothing will ever change, so it's better to not get too worked up about it.Zam_Olyas said:Laura Meseguer should ask them ..oh wait.. nnaaaah she won't ever as those things happened in the past![]()
If you read Hincapie's affidavit, it is clear that "Rider 4" is Julich. But he has a job to keep.benzwire said:One guy that I've always liked is Bobby Julich. He was on Cofidis, Credit Agricole, Telekon, CSC, and now works for SKY. I don't pretend, however, that he's ridden clean, but he has certainly slipped under the radar. I guess he was "rider #4" in the USADA report too.
I wouldn't want the guy to lose his job at SKY, but I still hated his fake reaction when Basso was dropped by CSC. Looking back at US Postal and all those guys sitting by while anyone that questioned "the myth" was attacked, saying nothing as if they were clueless to what was going on, it is ridiculous. Julich acted much the same way when Basso was let go. He acted as if he was dismayed and clueless that Basso could have doped. Looking at the teams with which he's been involved, his relationships with Riis, Basso, the Schlecks, and yes even Jens, how the hell would he not have a clue about any involvement in doping, let alone his partaking in it.
I personally think the guy is very knowledgable and a genuinely nice person, but he doesn't get a free pass any more than Dave Z, Levi, CVV, or anyone else of that generation of US riders. I wonder if he will have to come forward eventually to explain his experiences.
Vino seems to have been a client of both Ferrari and Fuentes.roundabout said:I want to hear what Vinokourov has to say.
Probably something about donating money to Ferrari out of pure generosity, but still it would be amusing to read.