The Sky-Con-O-Meter. Predictions on how much more ridiculous they can get

[ppanther92]

Apart from the insane solo, Froome achieved something that only two achieved before and that was over 30 years ago. He is no curren title holders in all 3 GTs. Being the winner of even 2 was titled unachievable for years now. And why stop here? He will again be the big favourite in July (if he is allowed to start). Can't get more ridicously as that in my book.

 

[King Boonen]

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Apart from the insane solo, Froome achieved something that only two achieved before and that was over 30 years ago. He is no curren title holders in all 3 GTs. Being the winner of even 2 was titled unachievable for years now. And why stop here? He will again be the big favourite in July (if he is allowed to start). Can't get more ridicously as that in my book.

Was it? 2 in a season, yes, but 2 would be very achievable. Contador did it twice I think, Tour then Giro next year (07/08) and Vuelta then Giro next year (14/15). It just usually means missing the Tour, which Contador did in 2008 and most of it in 2015.

Winning the Tour this year would certainly be ridiculous.

 

[Gung Ho Gun]

Contador won both Giro and Vuelta in 2008, and Nibali would have done the same thing in 2013 if it wasn't for Horner

 

[Saint Unix]

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Contador won both Giro and Vuelta in 2008, and Nibali would have done the same thing in 2013 if it wasn't for Horner

Huge difference between winning the Giro-Vuelta double and winning the Giro-Tour or the Tour-Vuelta.

Firstly, the recovery period gets slashed in half. After a three week race any normal human being needs a period of rest before they can get back into top form. Managing to both fully rest and get back into Grand Tour-winning form is almost impossible in the short time between two consecutive tours.

Secondly, the competition in the Tour is usually much harder, so winning it takes more from the rider.

If Froome wins four consecutive Grand Tours it will be the biggest raised middle finger to clean sport I've ever seen.

 

[pastronef]

Re: Re:

Contador won both Giro and Vuelta in 2008, and Nibali would have done the same thing in 2013 if it wasn't for Horner

Huge difference between winning the Giro-Vuelta double and winning the Giro-Tour or the Tour-Vuelta.

Firstly, the recovery period gets slashed in half. After a three week race any normal human being needs a period of rest before they can get back into top form. Managing to both fully rest and get back into Grand Tour-winning form is almost impossible in the short time between two consecutive tours.

Secondly, the competition in the Tour is usually much harder, so winning it takes more from the rider.

If Froome wins four consecutive Grand Tours it will be the biggest raised middle finger to clean sport I've ever seen.

if the 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc riders behind him are CLEAN yes it would be the biggest... etc etc
they are not

 

[Saint Unix]

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if the 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc riders behind him are CLEAN yes it would be the biggest... etc etc
they are not

Very true. I should have said "the illusion of clean sport".

 

[El Pistolero]

Re: Re:

Contador won both Giro and Vuelta in 2008, and Nibali would have done the same thing in 2013 if it wasn't for Horner

Huge difference between winning the Giro-Vuelta double and winning the Giro-Tour or the Tour-Vuelta.

Firstly, the recovery period gets slashed in half. After a three week race any normal human being needs a period of rest before they can get back into top form. Managing to both fully rest and get back into Grand Tour-winning form is almost impossible in the short time between two consecutive tours.

Secondly, the competition in the Tour is usually much harder, so winning it takes more from the rider.

If Froome wins four consecutive Grand Tours it will be the biggest raised middle finger to clean sport I've ever seen.

if the 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc riders behind him are CLEAN yes it would be the biggest... etc etc
they are not

Froome cheats a lot more than others. He has no moral compass.

 

[pastronef]

Re: Re:

Contador won both Giro and Vuelta in 2008, and Nibali would have done the same thing in 2013 if it wasn't for Horner

Huge difference between winning the Giro-Vuelta double and winning the Giro-Tour or the Tour-Vuelta.

Firstly, the recovery period gets slashed in half. After a three week race any normal human being needs a period of rest before they can get back into top form. Managing to both fully rest and get back into Grand Tour-winning form is almost impossible in the short time between two consecutive tours.

Secondly, the competition in the Tour is usually much harder, so winning it takes more from the rider.

If Froome wins four consecutive Grand Tours it will be the biggest raised middle finger to clean sport I've ever seen.

if the 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc riders behind him are CLEAN yes it would be the biggest... etc etc
they are not

Froome cheats a lot more than others. He has no moral compass.

:lol:


when cheating (less or more) no moral compass in involved. so others havent that either

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Why not go for broke and win both TDF and Vuelta this year and be the first rider to win all GT in a year

 

[RedheadDane]

I dunno, I'm starting to find their - rather odd - definition of "transparency" rather ridiculous...

 

[Brullnux]

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Why not go for broke and win both TDF and Vuelta this year and be the first rider to win all GT in a year

Why stop there? I hear there's a pretty hilly world championships in Austria this year?

 

[El Pistolero]

Re: Re:

Contador won both Giro and Vuelta in 2008, and Nibali would have done the same thing in 2013 if it wasn't for Horner

Huge difference between winning the Giro-Vuelta double and winning the Giro-Tour or the Tour-Vuelta.

Firstly, the recovery period gets slashed in half. After a three week race any normal human being needs a period of rest before they can get back into top form. Managing to both fully rest and get back into Grand Tour-winning form is almost impossible in the short time between two consecutive tours.

Secondly, the competition in the Tour is usually much harder, so winning it takes more from the rider.

If Froome wins four consecutive Grand Tours it will be the biggest raised middle finger to clean sport I've ever seen.

if the 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc riders behind him are CLEAN yes it would be the biggest... etc etc
they are not

Froome cheats a lot more than others. He has no moral compass.

:lol:


when cheating (less or more) no moral compass in involved. so others havent that either

froome takes much more risks than others which is why the idiot got caught with something as stupid as salbutamol. Just watch interviews of him, he's a bigger sociopath than Armstrong.

 

[rick james]

Re: Re:

Contador won both Giro and Vuelta in 2008, and Nibali would have done the same thing in 2013 if it wasn't for Horner

Huge difference between winning the Giro-Vuelta double and winning the Giro-Tour or the Tour-Vuelta.

Firstly, the recovery period gets slashed in half. After a three week race any normal human being needs a period of rest before they can get back into top form. Managing to both fully rest and get back into Grand Tour-winning form is almost impossible in the short time between two consecutive tours.

Secondly, the competition in the Tour is usually much harder, so winning it takes more from the rider.

If Froome wins four consecutive Grand Tours it will be the biggest raised middle finger to clean sport I've ever seen.

if the 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc riders behind him are CLEAN yes it would be the biggest... etc etc
they are not

Froome cheats a lot more than others. He has no moral compass.

 

[Saint Unix]

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froome takes much more risks than others which is why the idiot got caught with something as stupid as salbutamol. Just watch interviews of him, he's a bigger sociopath than Armstrong.

Him and Sky in general are also far more shameless. Froome has no qualms about pulling out the most ludicrous doping-assisted displays seen in the last 10 years if he has to, no matter how ridiculous it ends up looking in the grand scheme of things. That, in addition to the team constantly peddling nonsense explanations for everything fishy that goes on around them. Leinders only there to weigh the riders, Froome had bilharzia without knowing it for years, marginal gains that every other team also does but somehow they work extra well for Sky, Froome just lost the fat and on and on and on and on...

 

[42x16ss]

Re: Re:

Contador won both Giro and Vuelta in 2008, and Nibali would have done the same thing in 2013 if it wasn't for Horner

Huge difference between winning the Giro-Vuelta double and winning the Giro-Tour or the Tour-Vuelta.

Firstly, the recovery period gets slashed in half. After a three week race any normal human being needs a period of rest before they can get back into top form. Managing to both fully rest and get back into Grand Tour-winning form is almost impossible in the short time between two consecutive tours.

Secondly, the competition in the Tour is usually much harder, so winning it takes more from the rider.

If Froome wins four consecutive Grand Tours it will be the biggest raised middle finger to clean sport I've ever seen.

if the 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc riders behind him are CLEAN yes it would be the biggest... etc etc
they are not

Froome cheats a lot more than others. He has no moral compass.

Either that, or Sky has found a new technique, or further developed an older one.

 

[Benotti69]

Sky really fired one across the sports bows with the 1500 page document.

A warning of do not mess with us or we will *** you up.

Even more reason to want to see them gone from the sport.

 

[veganrob]

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Sky really fired one across the sports bows with the 1500 page document.

A warning of do not mess with us or we will **** you up.

Even more reason to want to see them gone from the sport.

Yep, classic tactic. Make the case bigger than the oppostion can afford.

 

[hfer07]

Re: The Sky-Con-O-Meter. Predictions on how much more ridic

I cannot wait for the "G" show in the Dauphine, dropping everyone in the mountains, despite his crash.....

 

[wirral]

Re: The Sky-Con-O-Meter. Predictions on how much more ridic

I cannot wait for the "G" show in the Dauphine, dropping everyone in the mountains, despite his crash.....

I suspect it will be the The Two G's show on Sky Channel.

 

[GraftPunk]

Oh hai guys! Anything interesting happen today?

 

[bigcog]

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Oh hai guys! Anything interesting happen today?

You mean Dauphine and Sky winning the TTT. Did you see their team ? Hardly otherworldly.

 

[macbindle]

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Sky really fired one across the sports bows with the 1500 page document.

A warning of do not mess with us or we will **** you up.

Even more reason to want to see them gone from the sport.

How is a 1500 page document going to **** anybody up? It's not an attack, its a defence. Why do you assume that they might not actually have a strong case? There are some very well-conducted studies that call into question the basis of the Salbutamol test. Who are you, and what specialist knowledge do you have, that refutes these studies?

Something evidence based please, not your usual faith-based responses.

 

[Benotti69]

Re: Re:

Sky really fired one across the sports bows with the 1500 page document.

A warning of do not mess with us or we will **** you up.

Even more reason to want to see them gone from the sport.

How is a 1500 page document going to **** anybody up? It's not an attack, its a defence. Why do you assume that they might not actually have a strong case? There are some very well-conducted studies that call into question the basis of the Salbutamol test. Who are you, and what specialist knowledge do you have, that refutes these studies?

Something evidence based please, not your usual faith-based responses.

Faith based....hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahaha

Only the team that apparently reinvented the sport with marginal gains could find a legitimate fault with a test that has banned lots of athletes!

Again, when a team and its riders in this sport do the unbelievable and constantly contradict themselves trying to explain that unbeievabilty away people want to shoot the 'skeptics'.

I dont need to refute anything. Sky/Froome has plenty of evidence pointing to doping/cheating/motors.

Anyone who still thinks Sky do it clean should be avoided.

 

[Merckx index]

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How is a 1500 page document going to **** anybody up? It's not an attack, its a defence.

It's not a defense, it's a delay--to allow Froome to ride the Tour. I doubt it really is 1500 pages, because one could reprint all the relevant studies in far less space, with hundreds of pages more left for analysis.

Why do you assume that they might not actually have a strong case? There are some very well-conducted studies that call into question the basis of the Salbutamol test.

Really? Can you cite some of these studies?

Something evidence based please, not your usual faith-based responses.

Pot-kettle, goose-gander.

 

[macbindle]

Re: Re:

Sky really fired one across the sports bows with the 1500 page document.

A warning of do not mess with us or we will **** you up.

Even more reason to want to see them gone from the sport.

How is a 1500 page document going to **** anybody up? It's not an attack, its a defence. Why do you assume that they might not actually have a strong case? There are some very well-conducted studies that call into question the basis of the Salbutamol test. Who are you, and what specialist knowledge do you have, that refutes these studies?

Something evidence based please, not your usual faith-based responses.

Faith based....hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahaha

Only the team that apparently reinvented the sport with marginal gains could find a legitimate fault with a test that has banned lots of athletes!

Again, when a team and its riders in this sport do the unbelievable and constantly contradict themselves trying to explain that unbeievabilty away people want to shoot the 'skeptics'.

I dont need to refute anything. Sky/Froome has plenty of evidence pointing to doping/cheating/motors.

Anyone who still thinks Sky do it clean should be avoided.

Your entire post is irrelevant.

You have answered a question I haven't asked and just slipped into your usual 'one-size-fits-all' answer.

I'm haven't asked you whether you think Sky dopes.

I know what you think. You post the same thing in most of your posts.

I asked you SPECIFICALLY about the Salbutamol case.

I'll highlight the questions in my post above and let's see if you can actually manage to answer them. There are 3 of them.