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As someone who is from the Netherlands and who is a fan of Kruijswijk i still have to somewhat disagree with you. Yes Kruiswijk has shown early in his career that he could get (barely) in the top 10 of a GC, but he has never shown climbing ability to be a GT overall contender. If he would have been a spaniard or italian (= for me as a dutch guy just another cyclist who finished in the top 10 of the giro a couple of years ago and hasnt repeated that form later) i would have screamed 'he found a good doc'' during 2016.hrotha said:
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Nothing short of insane. Most suspicious GT performance since the 2013 Vuelta. Even Froome was never as suspicious as this.
- Sep 14, 2009
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Ba ha ha ha ha. Not as funny as Aru. But pretty dang close. A bit over a minute behind TD. After lighting up every mountain finish, it turns out he can also do pretty well in pan flat steady state TT. Unless he crashes and burns, he's winning the Giro by a large margin. Priceless!
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Extraoridinary level of consistency across all terrains from yates this Giro and was well above what might orinarily have been expected of him in a TT before the race. To get as close to Dumoulin in a TT after dominating in the mountains is unreal.
The funny thing is that this will soon be the 'new normal' for Yates a la Froome and he may go on to dominate the GC for a number of years. Never seen this coming at all before the race and I don't think many other than Yates himself did.
He can now afford to ride on wheels for the rest of the race, was hoping for the race that he would leak 3 minutes to Dumoulin and be forced to continue his nuclear attacks in the mountains.
The funny thing is that this will soon be the 'new normal' for Yates a la Froome and he may go on to dominate the GC for a number of years. Never seen this coming at all before the race and I don't think many other than Yates himself did.
He can now afford to ride on wheels for the rest of the race, was hoping for the race that he would leak 3 minutes to Dumoulin and be forced to continue his nuclear attacks in the mountains.
- May 26, 2010
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But wont. When such 'form' is on display riders tend to flaunt it and win stages for the heck of it.
I expect Yates to win more stages. He would be well advised to 'act' tired and drop a few seconds here and there, but when did a rider never take the opportunities to win stages. He has already gifted 1 stage win. I expect him to win Friday and Saturday stages.
ontheroad said:
But wont. When such 'form' is on display riders tend to flaunt it and win stages for the heck of it.
I expect Yates to win more stages. He would be well advised to 'act' tired and drop a few seconds here and there, but when did a rider never take the opportunities to win stages. He has already gifted 1 stage win. I expect him to win Friday and Saturday stages.
- Apr 3, 2009
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Give me a break.
This guy has been a very good, but not an incredible rider his whole history. Froome smashed the field for years, in climbs and TT's, in the toughest race in the world, coming from absolutely nowhere.
This is nothing compared to the absurdity of Froome.
therealthing said:
Give me a break.
This guy has been a very good, but not an incredible rider his whole history. Froome smashed the field for years, in climbs and TT's, in the toughest race in the world, coming from absolutely nowhere.
This is nothing compared to the absurdity of Froome.
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When a "good rider" leapfrogs his form to such ridiculous levels of consistency & power, I can't help but thinking if is him alone, or his twin brother is set to surprise the World in the Tour as well........
Has MS gone to the dark side completely or is the Yates brothers doing it alone with the British Cycling blessing..?
Has MS gone to the dark side completely or is the Yates brothers doing it alone with the British Cycling blessing..?
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Yates is only 25, and his progression (up until now) has been consistent and logical especially when you consider the circumstances surround his first experience of GT riding with OGE.
The progression has continued this year, but we aren't at the finish yet.
I agree that he has been dominant, but not crushingly so. It's all very well being able to dance away on a steep slope, but that means little if your heavier rival manages to claw back a chunk of the initial advantage. Do we expect Dumoulin to match a tiny climber? Of course not. In fact in was really only Froome's lack of motor...ahem...I mean climbing pizzaz that made Yates look so good. Of course, Froome has his mojo back and has stomped on Yates. Pinot? Pah. Way over-rated.
Would I bet my life on Yates being clean? Of course not, but I don't see anything here that is totally mutated.
The progression has continued this year, but we aren't at the finish yet.
I agree that he has been dominant, but not crushingly so. It's all very well being able to dance away on a steep slope, but that means little if your heavier rival manages to claw back a chunk of the initial advantage. Do we expect Dumoulin to match a tiny climber? Of course not. In fact in was really only Froome's lack of motor...ahem...I mean climbing pizzaz that made Yates look so good. Of course, Froome has his mojo back and has stomped on Yates. Pinot? Pah. Way over-rated.
Would I bet my life on Yates being clean? Of course not, but I don't see anything here that is totally mutated.
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So you are implying Rodriguez wasn't hired for weighing the riders and treat saddle sores?hrotha said:
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Froome has been the master at this tactic in his first 3 tour wins. Crush the opposition in the first 2 weeks and then ride defensively whilst losing a few token seconds here and there to 'keep it real' in the last week. Yates can't afford to lose many seconds to Dumoulin who is his only realistic rival so I expect him to simply stick to his wheel for the rest of this Giro. That will avoid any eyebrows being raised any more.
Benotti69 said:
Froome has been the master at this tactic in his first 3 tour wins. Crush the opposition in the first 2 weeks and then ride defensively whilst losing a few token seconds here and there to 'keep it real' in the last week. Yates can't afford to lose many seconds to Dumoulin who is his only realistic rival so I expect him to simply stick to his wheel for the rest of this Giro. That will avoid any eyebrows being raised any more.
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I'd say today is in line with his performances in the mountains. It wasn't ***, like Aru's, but very solid for a climber. After all, the TT was only 34km long.
Of course, his performances in the mountains and the consistency of them have been ridiculous. He was the 8th favourite before the race; if he could be about Pozzo and Pinot, it would have been considered a strong performance and an improvement.
Of course, his performances in the mountains and the consistency of them have been ridiculous. He was the 8th favourite before the race; if he could be about Pozzo and Pinot, it would have been considered a strong performance and an improvement.
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This is the Yates thread, so I've not been comparing him to Froome, who was so bonkers over the top and out of nowhere that it was laughable. Someone commented on how quickly things get normalized - proof of that would be folks who have stated Froome is at pre-transformation levels now, which is hilarious. Pre-transformation for Froome would have been mid peloton in the climb. So Yates is not as ridonkulous as Froome. But it's still all batsh1t crazy
He's been pretty crushingly dominant for a modern GT. He has been head and shoulders above all the other climbers. All the TT is over and there are still some good mountains to climb and he has a 1 min lead on TD who he should continue to pummel on those climbs.macbindle said:
This is the Yates thread, so I've not been comparing him to Froome, who was so bonkers over the top and out of nowhere that it was laughable. Someone commented on how quickly things get normalized - proof of that would be folks who have stated Froome is at pre-transformation levels now, which is hilarious. Pre-transformation for Froome would have been mid peloton in the climb. So Yates is not as ridonkulous as Froome. But it's still all batsh1t crazy
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