Teams & Riders Thibaut Pinot discussion thread

[Alexandre B.]

He said in L'Equipe : "At best, I will be 8th..."

 

[carolina]

I'm very impressed by FDJ, they're really dedicated to help Pinot. Now I just hope he doesn't crumble under pressure.

 

[May0maniac]

If Reichenbach, Elissonde, Morabito and Geniez are all fresh at the start of the Tour (I know, Geniez will probably ride the Giro, but they should just send a big train for Demare and 1-2 guys for the breakaways), he has a strong team for the mountains. With all the FDJ guys flying in the ITT they should also have enough guys to protect him on the flat stages, I think he'll have a great season.

 

[staubsauger]

This development might be even more interesting regarding the 2017 Giro actually! He might become a potential winner there.

 

[May0maniac]

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This development might be even more interesting regarding the 2017 Giro actually! He might become a potential winner there.

I don't know, the 100th Giro will probably have a really strong field. Nibali, Aru, Contador (if he's still racing with his proconti team). There are also rumours about Quintana going for the double in 2017 and Froome said that he'd like to ride the 2017 Giro because it is a historic Giro and I could see Sky letting him do the double with Geraint as a co-leader at the Tour, if the route suits him.
If all those guys would ride the Giro or go for the double a fresh Pinot would be one of the main favourites at the Tour.

 

[Metabolol]

I hope they can keep this up, in the past french stage racers have leaked so much time even before the mountain stages start. Would be great to see Pinot go in on an equal footing or why not with an advantage?!

I also like his reaction in regards to the cancellation of monte san vicino.

 

[greenedge]

What's his schedule like from here on? It's a pity if he doesn't use his good form for the next few stage-races that suit him.

 

[staubsauger]

He's gonna race Itzulia!

 

[Tonton]

What a win today for Tibopino! No Cance, Dennis, Big Tom or Martin, but still: Coppel, Navardauskas, JCP and Brandle are no slouches. First win of the year and it's an ITT. I'm doing somersaults right now .

 

[Gigs_98]

So, next year will be the 100th Giro which means that Nibali and Aru will probably be there and I heard somewhere that Quintana and Froome also think about riding the giro next year. So right now it really seems possible that france might get a new tdf winner again and (and I absolutely can't believe that I'm actually writing this sentence) it would maybe even be to Pinot's advantage if there are long TT's because he might have an advantage there against riders like Landa.
I know this is still all very unlikely but still 2017 might be Pinot's once in a life chance.

 

[Ramon Koran]

Let's not forget froome Contador nibali are past 30. Of the new gen landa aru Quintana and pinot. Pinot has best tt, he could potentially win a lot depending on parcours of gt

 

[Tonton]

It is in fact a course where ITT specialists dominate. To put Tibopino's time into prospective, here are some of the best times recorded on this 7K course:

9'07" Dumoulin '14
9'10" Dennis '14 - Porte '13
9'11" Pinot '16 - Felline '15 - TJVG '13
9'12" Jungels '15 - Froome '13
9'13" Coppel '16
9'16" Perault '16
9'17" Pinot '15 - Jungels '14 and '13 - Perault '13
9'18" Perault '14 - Coppel '14
9'20" Navardauskas '15
9'21" Navardauskas '16 and '14 a.k.a Mr. Consistency.
9'28" Perault '15

Not too shabby then


Wouldn't it be nice in July ?

 

[Alexandre B.]

It is PérauD.

 

[Tonton]

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It is PérauD.

Ooops! And tomorrow he'll be Perro, mauled to death by Tibopino .

 

[CheckMyPecs]

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Let's not forget froome Contador nibali are past 30. Of the new gen landa aru Quintana and pinot. Pinot has best tt, he could potentially win a lot depending on parcours of gt

He needs to move to a better team, though. Who's supposed to help him if hell breaks loose in the mountains, Cédric Pineau?

 

[Tonton]

Re: Re:

Let's not forget froome Contador nibali are past 30. Of the new gen landa aru Quintana and pinot. Pinot has best tt, he could potentially win a lot depending on parcours of gt

He needs to move to a better team, though. Who's supposed to help him if hell breaks loose in the mountains, Cédric Pineau?

Against Sky (the best team), all GC contenders will be in the same situation: following a fast pace that suits Froome. A pace that makes sharp attacks dull. And besides Sky (where Thibaut would be a super-dom for Dawg), BMC, Astana, Tinkov all have their leaders, actually two of them. So there's no going there. What's left?

 

[killswitch]

Re: Re:

Let's not forget froome Contador nibali are past 30. Of the new gen landa aru Quintana and pinot. Pinot has best tt, he could potentially win a lot depending on parcours of gt

He needs to move to a better team, though. Who's supposed to help him if hell breaks loose in the mountains, Cédric Pineau?

Against Sky (the best team), all GC contenders will be in the same situation: following a fast pace that suits Froome. A pace that makes sharp attacks dull. And besides Sky (where Thibaut would be a super-dom for Dawg), BMC, Astana, Tinkov all have their leaders, actually two of them. So there's no going there. What's left?

To Trek if Nibali renews his contract with Astana although sponsor-wise it wouldn't be the best move.

 

[del1962]

Wouldn't it be better if FDJ got him some support in rather than him moving, what is their budget like?

 

[rm7]

So, next year will be the 100th Giro which means that Nibali and Aru will probably be there and I heard somewhere that Quintana and Froome also think about riding the giro next year. So right now it really seems possible that france might get a new tdf winner again and (and I absolutely can't believe that I'm actually writing this sentence) it would maybe even be to Pinot's advantage if there are long TT's because he might have an advantage there against riders like Landa.
I know this is still all very unlikely but still 2017 might be Pinot's once in a life chance.

Froome will get sick at the Giro within the 1st week.

I'm not really sure about Pinot. With this new TT skills he can definitely pass some guys in GC, but he's still missing the last level in the big climbs. He's only 25 yet, so the time is on his side, but I don't think he will be able to beat guys like Quintana, Froome and Aru over 3 weeks.

He also only podium the Tour 2014 because of Contador/Froome crash obviously. I think he'll be a guy contending for podium spots, and maybe he can hit some superform and a some luck with bad form/competition and grab a GT win.

 

[CheckMyPecs]

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Against Sky (the best team), all GC contenders will be in the same situation: following a fast pace that suits Froome. A pace that makes sharp attacks dull. And besides Sky (where Thibaut would be a super-dom for Dawg), BMC, Astana, Tinkov all have their leaders, actually two of them. So there's no going there. What's left?

When does Thibaut's contract with FDJ expire anyway? Froome might be old enough by then that Pinot becomes Sky's leader by default until the next big British thing appears (hint: not Geraint).

 

[afpm90]

Re: Re:

Against Sky (the best team), all GC contenders will be in the same situation: following a fast pace that suits Froome. A pace that makes sharp attacks dull. And besides Sky (where Thibaut would be a super-dom for Dawg), BMC, Astana, Tinkov all have their leaders, actually two of them. So there's no going there. What's left?

When does Thibaut's contract with FDJ expire anyway? Froome might be old enough by then that Pinot becomes Sky's leader by default until the next big British thing appears (hint: not Geraint).

He already appeared: Hugh Carty.

 

[CheckMyPecs]

Re: Re:

Against Sky (the best team), all GC contenders will be in the same situation: following a fast pace that suits Froome. A pace that makes sharp attacks dull. And besides Sky (where Thibaut would be a super-dom for Dawg), BMC, Astana, Tinkov all have their leaders, actually two of them. So there's no going there. What's left?

When does Thibaut's contract with FDJ expire anyway? Froome might be old enough by then that Pinot becomes Sky's leader by default until the next big British thing appears (hint: not Geraint).

He already appeared: Hugh Carty.

The French have spent the last 20 years piling the pressure on any young rider who does well in an important race and look where it got them. Let Hugh develop at his own pace.

 

[Kwibus]

I'm a bit late, but really happy for Pinot.

This bodes well for him. Let's hope his new TT skills didn't kill his climbing.

 

[Tonton]

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Wouldn't it be better if FDJ got him some support in rather than him moving, what is their budget like?

Also in response to checkmypecs:

Pinot's contract ends at the end of the year. In an article a couple of months ago, Thibaut said that he didn't want more $ for himself but he wants FDJ's budget to be higher (it's about half of what the top teams budget is) so the team gets stronger. Pinot wants his contract to be done early in the year so it doesn't become a distraction. He's not being unreasonable (what's an extra 5-10 million Euros for the lottery?) nor greedy IMO. On the flip-side, it's likely that the French lottery will want him on the TdF every year...

 

[carolina]

demare won a monument, so that's another reason for them to increase the team's budget. let's just hope that demare thinks in the same way of pinot: better team > better salary