Tirreno - Adriatico 2016 09/03/16 - 15/03/16 2.UWT

[burning]

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BMC are happy about it because 3 of their riders will probably finish in the top 10 and they still could win the whole race, of course they are happy.

Exactly, I hope that TJ will get dropped and fail horribly in all races that matters.

 

[SafeBet]

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BMC are happy about it because 3 of their riders will probably finish in the top 10 and they still could win the whole race, of course they are happy.

Phinney preaching about how the peloton should stay together and not complain about this decision is unbelievable.

 

[burning]

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BMC are happy about it because 3 of their riders will probably finish in the top 10 and they still could win the whole race, of course they are happy.

Phinney preaching about how the peloton should stay together and not complain about this decision is unbelievable.

Just remembered his attitude at 2013 MSR, it is just sad at the moment.

 

[Breh]

So TJ has to drop from every race because the organisation cancelled a stage? I'm not sure how TJVG is responsible for this.

Peloton seems 50/50 about the decision. Better safe than sorry then.

 

[SafeBet]

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Just remembered his attitude at 2013 MSR, it is just sad at the moment.

I know it can't happen but it'd be great to see Astana and FDJ go berserk for 50km tomorrow and destroy BMC.

 

[SafeBet]

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Peloton seems 50/50 about the decision. Better safe than sorry then.

Better decide on race day. You can be safe as well.
There's no way you can uphold this decision unless you clearly benefit from it.

 

[Rollthedice]

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So TJ has to drop from every race because the organisation cancelled a stage? I'm not sure how TJVG is responsible for this.

Peloton seems 50/50 about the decision. Better safe than sorry then.

TJ is not responsible, he is reaping the benefits and his team is overjoyed with this farce so I think I'm entitled to dislike him.

 

[Carols]

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Astana threatening RCS with Nibali's absence in Giro d'Italia. They are mad because they cancelled the stage. No snow at all.

Ahahahahahaha

Seriously, I saw that one already coming, when they lightened Aru's spring program because his shape was better than expected already at Algarve while Landa's got his health problems!

Ain't got nothing's to do with todays stage cancelation if you ask me.

Landa is on Sky BTW .

That's why he's or was the main opponent on paper for the Astana leader!? With Nibali having a stronger advantage on him in the tt than Aru. But if Landa's problems continue ..... Aru would be the overwhelming favorite and if Nibali likes the idea to ride the Tour anyway.

Seriously those claims sound very made up somehow. Like they did some talks already like 3-4 weeks ago, when they lightened Aru's program and now fueled by anger they use the situation to arrange a plausible reason for it.

I might be fully on the track though. It's speculation ofc.

Oh my bad, I thought you were discussing him as Astana pawn

 

[burning]

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So TJ has to drop from every race because the organisation cancelled a stage? I'm not sure how TJVG is responsible for this.

Peloton seems 50/50 about the decision. Better safe than sorry then.

TJ is not responsible, he is reaping the benefits and his team is overjoyed with this farce so I think I'm entitled to dislike him.

Yeah, it is not like that I wish him to crash out, I just want to see him dropped in every race after BMC's ridiculous reactions.

 

[Beech Mtn]

Is too late to get a new trophy for this year's race? RCS can go buy a snow shovel and glue rhinestones all over it and give that to the winner. Save the trident for another year.

 

[rhubroma]

What I don't understand is why didn't they set the finish beneath the snowline? Then plan on starting the stage and see what happens. Better yet would have been to plow the road and go with this plan. Evidently Vegni was thinking more with his wallet then with the interest of the sport.

As far as the riders sentiments go, they are under contract to ride and paid well with it. Their safety comes first for sure, but they are in danger in any race. The danger needs to be verified though. Weather is always unpredictable. There is enough time after the start of a stage to take action. While this hasn't always happened in the past, the new protocals should make this less likely.

 

[Breh]

BMC have a better chance to win, have 3riders finishing top10. You'd be in a mental hospital if you wouldn't be happy.

What can TJ do? Abandon? Is TJ responsible for his teams reaction? I suppose you want to see GvA and Caruso flop aswell. Brambilla, Stybi and Jungels are to be hated

 

[doperhopper]

UCI should invent better rules - how about INDY500 style? (No dry tarmac, no race.) Or why not soccer rules? Crash/fall/mechanical => race stopped. Or tennis "doctor time" (race stopped)? Possibilities are endless...

 

[classicomano]

Lefevre called Nibali a loser on twitter. Goddamn it I hate this *** maffioso ***. When will he disappear already.

 

[staubsauger]

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Lefevre called Nibali a loser on twitter. Goddamn it I hate this **** maffioso ***. When will he disappear already.

Lefevre has gone totally braindead even for his own standards the last few years ain't he?

 

[staubsauger]

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UCI should invent better rules - how about INDY500 style? (No dry tarmac, no race.) Or why not soccer rules? Crash/fall/mechanical => race stopped. Or tennis "doctor time" (race stopped)? Possibilities are endless...

They should allow pit stops during the Giro mountain stages, so that Hesjedal can load his motor!

 

[Red Rick]

*** Lefevre anyway

 

[veji11]

Lefévère is just a jackass. I hope this serves as a lesson to everybody so that all stakeholders remember why sometimes the race starts without certainty it will go on till the end and gets cancelled : Paris Nice this year, the Tuchino interruption on MSR a few years ago, etc.

This is the way things are done in road cycling : road cycling isn't an indoor sport nor even like soccer played on one stadium. the race takes place over 200ks of territory, where the weather can vary, where it might be a matter of 1 or 2 degrees between raceable or not and you can't know for sure beforehand.

I hope they all remember it next time and that the Cancellaras and Phinneys and Lefévère will shut up about it.

Regarding the race now, let's just let it be : it will be raced on the route it has and a big CLM guy will win it all, c'est la vie, let's just remember this pathetic decision for the future and not cave to the pressure of a few divas

 

[Beech Mtn]

This was in the comments section to the article on CN's main page about Nibali possibly skipping the Giro:

Most forecasts in Italy yesterday said there would be no snow.

Today, there is no snow.

Is the media going to say nothing?

Why did Vegni postpone the race the day before, rather than
on the day?

Why was no alternative route used? Agnoli posted 3
alternative routes on Twitter.

Who benefits from this decision? BMC, Etixx – Velon teams.
Who suffers? FDJ and Astana – non-Velon teams.

And RCS have been cosying up to Velon recently.

The cold is not dangerous – this lie is becoming all-pervasive.
Snow or ice is – temperature, per se, isn’t.

Why have the UCI allowed individuals with a vested interest
in an outcome, be involved in decision making? As always, the UCI is failing to
run the sport properly. They should not have allowed this.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/nib...-due-to-risk-of-mountain-stage-cancellations/

 

[Tonton]

Pinot's reaction: "Sad reality of modern cycling. Picture of the finish. How can a stage be cancelled the day before?"

https://gyazo.com/9a8ce0b45fcfbe85cf63addf77c16c5f

 

[Rollthedice]

But it looks moronic from Vegni to take away the chance of winning an Italian race by the best Italian rider. Why?

 

[Metabolol]

It's sad when politics decide a race, I completely understand Nibali's frustration. If this continues then stage racers (climbers) will have to think even more carefully about what races they participate in and target. There is no point in participating in races where snow may be a problem. If they are going to start cancelling stages left and right then I don't blame Nibali if he skips the Giro.

Both PN and TA have been ruined for me as a viewer.

 

[Arked]

Sorry to see this year T-A becoming such a joke. It may cause future editions of the race losing some big names. Because lets be honest, this race was waste of time for most of the GC contenders. Nothing more than training miles. And not very good one.

 

[Maaaaaaaarten]

It's so terrible that all the riders from teams that benefit from this are acting like this is a good decision. Sure BMC, Etixx, you're happy because this ridiculous decision favours you. Just shut up and win your race and keep your bovine excrement to yourself........

One of the appeals of cycling is the toughness of it. Cancelling stages because of bad weather should only be used as a last resort if it becomes unraceable, otherwise it detracts from the epicness of cycling a lot.

 

[Metabolol]

Exactly, these fools are devaluing their own races with their politically correct nonsense. As a viewer I'm definitely going to be more picky in regards to what races I'll be following (risk of weather protocol sabotage/weather/do they have alternative routes or not/who is the organiser etc).