Tirreno-Adriatico 2020 - 7th - 14th September

[Red Rick]

Now who went down in that crash?

 

[Pricey_sky]

Now who went down in that crash?

Looked like a Trek rider got caught up in it and the comms team said it was Nibali.

 

[Rollthedice]

Now who went down in that crash?

Was watching Nibs who fell over a dude sitting on the tarmac on the left. Nothing serious, a bit slo-mo.

 

[postmanhat]

That was reminiscent of that bizarre Dan Mclay sprint from a few years back. When he weaved through a bunch at about twice their speed !

 

[Ricco']

Hopefully Ackermann times it better today. He needs to stop going too early. Cost him too many wins already.

Timed it to perfection!

 

[Poursuivant]

One of the best sprint victories I’ve ever seen for bravery, he must have cojones like planets Ackermann.

 

[Anderis]

Looks like Cort is actually doing a bunch sprint.... I wonder if EF has managed to teach him how to do it.

He's already won a bunch sprint this year.

Terrible EF lead out, they ran out of people with 800 meters to go.

I didn't see the finish but if you look at their roster, there's simply no fricking way they would be ever able to deliver a proper lead-out on a pancake flat stage. Their Tirreno squad is actually everyone who can climb that is not at TdF at the moment.

 

[tobydawq]

Cort went way too soon, which prompted Gaviria to go way too soon, and they both ran out of gas.
Ackermann proved he is the smarter sprinter, by keeping his cool (and this time there was no Mads Pedersen doing an insane 300 meter sprint ).

Chapeau Ackermann!

I don't think you can say he is the smarter rider here. If Cort or Gaviria had been riding five centimetres further to the ride, there would have been no soace to go through and then we wouldn't call it smart.

It was a quite spectacular sprint but he might as well just have been swamped. It was also funny to see Gaviria grinning in disbelief right after crossing the line. I bet he hadn't expected to be passed on the inside there...

 

[Red Rick]

Someone teach that fool about how to use face masks

 

[tobydawq]

He's already won a bunch sprint this year.


I didn't see the finish but if you look at their roster, there's simply no fricking way they would be ever able to deliver a proper lead-out on a pancake flat stage. Their Tirreno squad is actually everyone who can climb that is not at TdF at the moment.

Yeah, they did a fine job, giving Cort an excellent position. You can't expect more.

 

[Broccolidwarf]

He's already won a bunch sprint this year.


I didn't see the finish but if you look at their roster, there's simply no fricking way they would be ever able to deliver a proper lead-out on a pancake flat stage. Their Tirreno squad is actually everyone who can climb that is not at TdF at the moment.

I know, but he has always sucked at positioning for sprints, he often gets boxed out by "tougher" sprinters and loses his train.

He actually did well with positioning today, jumping to the UAE train when his own ran out, but he started his sprint way too soon.

EF rode a good train, except they got the timing horribly wrong, so Cort was left on his own, out in the wind, with 800 to go, which obviously is not ideal

 

[Anderis]

EF rode a good train, except they got the timing horribly wrong, so Cort was left on his own with 800 to go, which obviously is not ideal

But they don't have anyone in their roster who has any business in delivering sprinters in a top position to the last 300 meters so what were they supposed to do? You can't expect a lead-out from a team that doesn't have any rider who specialises in putting in big watts towards the end of flat stages. It's not a matter of timing. Craddock or Clarke (let alone Woods or Caicedo) can never keep up with someone like Selig or Richeze on the last 500 meters of a flat stgae.

 

[Wvv]

Shame Merlier fell, wanted to see him sprint. And MVDP was leading out.

 

[Broccolidwarf]

Yeah, they did a fine job, giving Cort an excellent position. You can't expect more.

But they don't have anyone in their roster who has any business in delivering sprinters in a top position to the last 300 meters so what were they supposed to do? You can't expect a lead-out from a team that doesn't have any rider who specialises in putting in big watts towards the end of flat stages. It's not a matter of timing. Craddock or Clarke (let alone Woods or Caicedo) can never keep up with someone like Selig or Richeze on the last 500 meters of a flat stgae.

But they rode it like a real lead out, they delivered him at the front of the peloton, but with 800 to go.

If the object was positioning, they should have done it differently

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

That was reminiscent of that bizarre Dan Mclay sprint from a few years back. When he weaved through a bunch at about twice their speed !

Yeah, guys coming from behind completely out of the wind are frequently going much much faster than the sprinters in front. But they usually are boxed in. What we don’t see often is them having the combination of bravery, timing, skill and luck in terms of gaps opening to do that kind of slalom sprint.

 

[perico]

Atillio Viviani is riding? I’m gonna start a thread dedicated to all those who followed in Prudencio Indurain’s footsteps.

 

[Anderis]

I was just wondering...

What if Cort ends up riding for GC? He's already gained 4 seconds and could add some more time bonuses.

He was already 19th last year in Dauphine, against a stronger field and on a more mountainous route.

He finished with the best on a hard climb this year in Etoile de Besseges.

The final ITT should suit him, he finished 2nd in a similar one (a bit more hilly) in Etoile de Besseges this year.

I know it's a stretch but...

 

[Faserr]

At this sprint the peloton was pretty much lined up at the end. Ackermann wasn't really completely out of the wind , because he took the a direct line at the right and had to pass Cort and Gaviria on the right. It wasn't like hopping from rider to rider. I think he didn't even time it really good, but it was really strong.

 

[tobydawq]

I was just wondering...

What if Cort ends up riding for GC? He's already gained 4 seconds and could add some more time bonuses.

He was already 19th last year in Dauphine, against a stronger field and on a more mountainous route.

He finished with the best on a hard climb this year in Etoile de Besseges.

The final ITT should suit him, he finished 2nd in a similar one (a bit more hilly) in Etoile de Besseges this year.

I know it's a stretch but...

It could be nice to see but he hasn't been that good after the break. Decent sprint today, though, nobody would expect him to be the equal of Gaviria.

 

[Jagartrott]

In the helicopter shot before the sprint, I thought for a moment that MVDP had a white plastic bag attached to his bike somehow - but it turned out to be his butt. Those white bibs are... an acquired taste.

 

[Broccolidwarf]

I was just wondering...

What if Cort ends up riding for GC? He's already gained 4 seconds and could add some more time bonuses.

He was already 19th last year in Dauphine, against a stronger field and on a more mountainous route.

He finished with the best on a hard climb this year in Etoile de Besseges.

The final ITT should suit him, he finished 2nd in a similar one (a bit more hilly) in Etoile de Besseges this year.

I know it's a stretch but...

I would guess he's too heavy this year.

Last year, his whole spring was preparation for climbing in the Tour in support of Fuglsang.

This year he is targeting classics, and should be a good deal heavier.

He HAS said though, that he sees himself gravitating towards smaller stage races in future, so who knows?

 

[Anderis]

I would guess he's too heavy this year.

He was climbing really well in February this year.

Tour de La Provence 2020 Stage 2 results

Tour de La Provence 2020 Stage 2 from Aubagne to La Ciotat was won by Aleksandr Vlasov before Wilco Kelderman and Alexey Lutsenko. Aleksandr Vlasov was leading the general classification.

www.procyclingstats.com

https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/etoile-de-besseges/2020/stage-4 (don't be fooled by his 11th, some of the guys in front of him were from an early breakaway)

 

[MellowJohnny]

Now who went down in that crash?

Definitely at Least one Lotto Rider down unfortunately,

 

[ciranda]

This year he is targeting classics, and should be a good deal heavier.

No he wasn't. His scheduled season was about stage races like Catalunya and Pais Vasco, then Liege and AGR. I don't see him for the overall but since he's basically a jnr de Gendt by now will probably try something on the tougher stages .

 

[Broccolidwarf]

No he wasn't. His scheduled season was about stage races like Catalunya and Pais Vasco, then Liege and AGR. I don't see him for the overall but since he's basically a jnr de Gendt by now will probably try something on the tougher stages .

Isn't he doing the classics like Flanders and Amstel?