Teams & Riders Tom Dumoulin discussion thread

[Luthor]

Apparently in the paywalled article he says something like "Giro, Tour or both." So likely no Vuelta for Dumo

Too soon to plan for Vuelta. With Vuelta starting in Netherlands and the TTT I see Dumo there.

 

[KZD]

Apparently in the paywalled article he says something like "Giro, Tour or both." So likely no Vuelta for Dumo

I really hope that he doesn't go to the Tour unless he wants a pure domestique role because with Roglić, Van Aert and Vingegård there is no room for his personal ambitions.

Giro-Vuelta is the obvious choice but sadly he doesn't seem to care about the latter one.

 

[Bonimenier]

I really hope that he doesn't go to the Tour unless he wants a pure domestique role because with Roglić, Van Aert and Vingegård there is no room for his personal ambitions.

Giro-Vuelta is the obvious choice but sadly he doesn't seem to care about the latter one.

Unless Vingegaard goes to another GT as leader, but that seems unlikely with barely any TT kms in the Giro and Roglic going for revanche again in the Vuelta.

 

[Jspear]

Apparently in the paywalled article he says something like "Giro, Tour or both." So likely no Vuelta for Dumo

I don’t see that in the article. It says he

“Tom Dumoulin has revealed that he will return to targeting the overall classification at a Grand Tour in 2022 but did not specify if he will take aim at the Giro d’Italia, Tour de France or Vuelta a España.”

The Writer of the article says,

”Dumoulin could return to the Giro d’Italia, a race he won in 2017, but could also be tempted to build his form during 2022 and then target the Vuelta. This year’s race starts in the Netherlands and has both a team time trial and an individual time trial that could help Dumoulin pull back any time lost in the steep mountains. “

Theres no actual news in the article.

 

[tobydawq]

Unless Vingegaard goes to another GT as leader, but that seems unlikely with barely any TT kms in the Giro and Roglic going for revanche again in the Vuelta.

Just because Vingegaard is good in TTs, it doesn't mean he can't be good in a GT with (very) few TT kms.

But I think he will do the Tour with Roglic again.

 

[Anas]

Tom will probably ride the Giro next year !

Ganna, Colbrelli e Caruso andranno al Tour e non al Giro: «Scelta illogica delle squadre»

La Ineos per Ganna e la Bahrein per Caruso e Colbrelli hanno dirottati tutti e tre sul Tour. Damiano è stata la sorpresa del Giro del 2021, il vincitore della Roubaix manca dal 2016

www.corriere.it

 

[yaco]

An in-form TD can podium or better in the Giro - He needs to trust his ability.

 

[Anas]

Clearly, first even if there is only 25km of lTT it's already 1'30-2min on Lopez /Yates/Landa/ Carapaz & co. When you see that in the TDF 2020 he was 7th, at less than 2min of Landa and Mas 5th and 6th, 1min of Lopez in very mountainous TDF with only one TT (with the planche des belles filles who is normally to the advantage of thèse Guy), With a TD who back to racing After 420 days, overtrained according to him and saddle problems. I don't know why je couldn't fight for the pink or for the podium.

 

[Escarabajo]

Dumoulin to train in Medellin-Colombia for his altitude training. He might find Uran on the roads.

https://www.revistamundociclistico.com/2022/tom-dumoulin-escoge-a-medellin-para-realizar-su-pretemporada-pensando-en-el-giro-de-italia/

 

[RedheadDane]

Dumoulin to train in Medellin-Colombia for his altitude training. He might find Uran on the roads.

Has he gone missing?

 

[Escarabajo]

In Medellin is easy to go missing!!! LOL.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Clearly, first even if there is only 25km of lTT it's already 1'30-2min on Lopez /Yates/Landa/ Carapaz & co. When you see that in the TDF 2020 he was 7th, at less than 2min of Landa and Mas 5th and 6th, 1min of Lopez in very mountainous TDF with only one TT (with the planche des belles filles who is normally to the advantage of thèse Guy), With a TD who back to racing After 420 days, overtrained according to him and saddle problems. I don't know why je couldn't fight for the pink or for the podium.

yeah... but then he took some time off in 2021. Although he was already on a very high level at the olympics TT and Benelux Tour, we don't know about climbing yet.

Saw him training in Maastricht yesterday btw, looked very lean.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Tom doubters, is your theory that he won’t get back to his level or that his old level isnt competitive at the very top end of the current field?

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Tom doubters, is your theory that he won’t get back to his level or that his old level isnt competitive at the very top end of the current field?

I'm not a Tom doubter, i've always been somewhat of a fan of his. But i do fear his 2017-2018 level won't be enough to compete with the Slovenians. Podium, yes. Any GT without Pog/Rog, yes. And on top of that i also fear he might not even reach his old level, when in fact he should even do better than his old level.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Tom doubters ...

Who?

 

[Red Rick]

yeah... but then he took some time off in 2021. Although he was already on a very high level at the olympics TT and Benelux Tour, we don't know about climbing yet.

Saw him training in Maastricht yesterday btw, looked very lean.

Spoiler: Me when I see Dumoulin in 2017 shape again

 

[Escarabajo]

I don't think there are Tom doubters. It is just that some people have concerns about the time off from last year and racing a bit less than usual. Probably the biggest concern that I have is if he is going to pick up exactly where he left off when he was challenging for GT's.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Who?

Burn them at the stakes!

 

[CyclistAbi]

Burn them at the stakes!

Way too old school. Woke them!

 

[red_flanders]

I don't think there are Tom doubters. It is just that some people have concerns about the time off from last year and racing a bit less than usual. Probably the biggest concern that I have is if he is going to pick up exactly where he left off when he was challenging for GT's.

I think oddly, the biggest Tom doubter is...Tom. He's said as much many times and his actions have backed this up. I think when he shows he really wants to be there, and then starts compete for the win in top races, we'll all see that and believe in what he's doing. Maybe he's heading in that direction. I hope so, I like him as a rider.

 

[Eeslliw]

I think he will surprise many people this season. To me, he showed at OG TT that he still got it. He was second after alien Roglic, but to come back after quitting and beating the likes of Rohan, Gana and Kung, it shows he still has the physical aspect. Only question is his headspace. I reckon he will put Pogacar in his place already at UAE Tour . In more serious note, he will win Giro 2022.

 

[Anas]

Tom is at peace with himself now. Physically few are able to do what they can...
At the Giro he will have a good team and Tom is someone who is very consistent in GT.

Dumoulin: ik voel me hartstikke goed en heb zin in komend seizoen

Na twee roerige seizoenen verkiest Tom Dumoulin de Giro dit jaar boven de Tour de France. “Ik achtte het na de afgelopen periode verstandiger de gekte die de Tour met zich meebrengt te mijden. Mijn persoonlijke gevoel neigt ook meer naar de Giro. Die ronde maakt warme gevoelens bij mij los. Ik vind…

www.teamjumbovisma.nl

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Let's see what Tom still can do. I think he has a decent shot at Giro podium. Maybe skipping the Tour is a good thing as JV already has super strong riders there and he won't have to face his nightmare: baby faced killer from Komenda.

 

[Escarabajo]

Training in Colombia. But around the Antioquia area. Roads are in good condition.

https://www.revistamundociclistico.com/2022/tom-dumoulin-y-koen-bouwman-realizan-primeros-entrenamientos-por-carreteras-de-antioquia/

 

[ice&fire]

Training in Colombia. But around the Antioquia area. Roads are in good condition.

https://www.revistamundociclistico.com/2022/tom-dumoulin-y-koen-bouwman-realizan-primeros-entrenamientos-por-carreteras-de-antioquia/

We don't care about road conditions. How are the bus drivers in the area?