Inquitus said:TomekA said:This guy is incredible. I'm afraid, after Froome retirement, Sky will sign him and with Sky protection he will dominate TdF like Indurain.
With a Sky Train to protect him instead of a weak sauce Sunweb team, he clearly would have the chance to win many Grand Tours.
Well he has trained for more obviouslyValv.Piti said:Amazing. He basically rode at the front for the last 4 kilometres, taking matters into his own hands, chapeau!
Now, a 20 minutes effort after 3 flat days is something else entirely to a 220 km wrecking day after a restday.
Not remotely comparable. 2011 Froome and pre 2011 Froome are completely different riders in terms of their power output, whereas the new and the old Dumoulin are pretty much the same rider.Dekker_Tifosi said:However, it will take a lot more to break him I think. He should be much better prepared this time. That's why I don't like the comparisons people keep making with the 'old' Dumoulin. It makes no sense.
That's like comparing Froome to pre-2011 Froome. Why would you do that?
movingtarget said:IndianCyclist said:He has somethings going against him.
Weak team, Multi Mountain stages and Dutch bad luck. But it is equally possible that Quintana will run out of energy with the effort and crack in the final TT
The TT will be crucial. Strangely not many people thought the TTs would matter much but not many picked Dumoulin to be Quintana's main opposition obviously.
ferryman said:A wee bit frivolous but how do you actually pronounce big Tam's surname in English. In my head, I've always given it a French pronunciation for some reason (do moi lain) and I don't think anyone on ES has got it right either as they all pronounce it a wee bit differently. Can we have a definitive for us non Dutch speakers?
MightyWheelSucker said:Talking about weak team, I wonder if Sky is going to help him. To make Quintana's effort harder. Also Astana and Trek might be options, on condition they are not much interested in fighting for 6th place in Giro.
The race situation is completely different to the Vuelta. No-one was riding against Dumoulin in the Vuelta multi-mountain stages, until the last one - where he lost huge time. Quintana, Aru and Purito were all just looking at each other and riding really cautiously up until the final climb. None of them were prepared to go hard on an earlier climb and risk being counter-attacked by another climber.Red Rick said:I've been checking the results from the Vuelta 2015 again.
Dumoulin's performances in multi mountain stages where quite consistent with his performances on the bigger uniclimb stages in the 2015 Vuelta. He was 8th and 7th of the GC men in the 2 queen stages. Even on the stage where he 'cracked' he was dropped by about 6 GC riders, and then rode solo against a cooperating group of 5 riders.
He was 12th, 10th and 10th in the Cat 1 uniclimb stages, and did damage himself on the murito's in the first 9 days.
I don't think Dumoulin's climbing is that much worse on multi mountain stages. I think that altitude is the bigger question