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I don't think I am, I think you are underrating Froome. Dumoulin would easily still be favourite, but Froome would be his main challenger, and could run him close.Dekker_Tifosi said:Dumoulin also won the ITT in Pais Vasco with the Alto de Aia. That was considerably harder than this one. You are considerably underrating Dumoulin in this kind of ITTBrullnux said:It's a proper climb at the end, it isn't a rolling course that Dumoulin excels in. 3km at 10% will definitely exclude Martin, and probably Dennis too. It's length is another thing in Froome's favour. It means that there is only 27km of flat before the final climb. Afaik those 27km are pretty flat, not rolling. Even if they are rolling, that's better for Froome relative to Dumoulin. The last climb helps Froome more than Dumoulin, and we have seen him in the past excel in these sorts of climbs. Although, we have also seen Dumoulin do so. Froome won't be in top shape though.Dekker_Tifosi said:No Froome is no match for Dumoulin on a hilly course.
If it was a full on mountain ITT like TDF 2nd ITT last year maybe.
Bardamu said:Wouldn't call him bad mannered. He just tends to get annoyed/irritated when he is focused or tired.
Maybe, but he never holds grudges when he's cooled down and never is too proud to apologize when he has been a bit blunt/rude.Jspear said:Bardamu said:Wouldn't call him bad mannered. He just tends to get annoyed/irritated when he is focused or tired.
Which is still a form of bad manners. If you only have good manners when the sun is shining, then you don't really have the best of manners.
HelloDolly said:claude cat said::razz:
Certainly not the approach of Tom Boonen who gave out beer to journalists outside his house
There is an edge to Tom Dumoulin that peeks out now and again
It was there for about 10 minutes. Probably still drunk or massively hungover.Yingge said:Looks like that Twitter post has since been removed. If indeed it was ever there!!
Dekker_Tifosi said:It's also a difference between Dutch and other people. Dutch ppl tend to be considered really blunt or rude by others because we are so direct.
I wouldn't even be offended here if somebody told me to '**** off'.
classicomano said:He'd rather celebrate with his dog.
He deleted the tweet; I guess that's a start.Beech Mtn said:classicomano said:He'd rather celebrate with his dog.
Rehabilitating his image by taking a page from the Alberto Contador school of public relations.
Well the Worlds have been a bit of an afterthought for him a couple of times, so physically he wasn't at 100%. If he focuses on the rainbow jersey he is the man to beat.Dekker_Tifosi said:Yeah it will not be easy. Somehow it seems to be easier for him to win GT ITT's then championships. He also had some difficulty initially winning the dutch itt championships. Had some poor losses. Like when he won the TdSuisse ITT, and then a few days later he was nowhere in the dutch championships.
Beech Mtn said:classicomano said:He'd rather celebrate with his dog.
Rehabilitating his image by taking a page from the Alberto Contador school of public relations.