Teams & Riders Tom Dumoulin discussion thread

[Dekker_Tifosi]

I'm very disappointed that he isn't riding the Vuelta. If he's targeting next year's Tour then it seems far too long a time to go without having a grand tour in the legs (14 months).

No, he is targetting other races (worlds), and the Vuelta doesn't fit into that. Period.

 

[Bardamu]

What is the parcours of the Binck Banck tour like

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

I don't know, but i'm guessing this

stage 1
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Stage 2
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Stage 3
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Stage 4
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Stage 5 (cobbles)

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Stage 6

_/\/\/\/\/\/\/ (ardennes)

Stage 7 (TT)

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[Bardamu]

So if Sunweb can control it, easy to win for Tom.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

I was almost right btw, TT is earlier, cobbles is at the end, and hill stage is before that.

However I'm not convinced it's easy. These hills are shorter, even shorter than San Sebastian. So it suits explosive guys more. Just like Geraardsbergen. He'll have to blast the TT, which is only 9km

 

[Red Rick]

Really impressed by CSS

Tom is an absolute beast

 

[Nirvana]

Re:

I was almost right btw, TT is earlier, cobbles is at the end, and hill stage is before that.

However I'm not convinced it's easy. These hills are shorter, even shorter than San Sebastian. So it suits explosive guys more. Just like Geraardsbergen. He'll have to blast the TT, which is only 9km

There are two hilly stages, the Amstel like (stage five) and the Liege like (stage six) before the grand final of Geraardsbergen. It's very similar to previous years (bar last one that was very easy because of Qatar Worlds).

 

[tobydawq]

Re: Re:

I was almost right btw, TT is earlier, cobbles is at the end, and hill stage is before that.

However I'm not convinced it's easy. These hills are shorter, even shorter than San Sebastian. So it suits explosive guys more. Just like Geraardsbergen. He'll have to blast the TT, which is only 9km

There are two hilly stages, the Amstel like (stage five) and the Liege like (stage six) before the grand final of Geraardsbergen. It's very similar to previous years (bar last one that was very easy because of Qatar Worlds).

Good. That means that Sagan in all likelihood will win.

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

"Tom Dumoulin to analyze GT routes before making final decision of 2018 targets. He knows ASO policy on TDF ITT kms."

https://twitter.com/ammattipyoraily/status/894472054266875904


^ a.k.a. a TDF assault is unlikely as that race will likely keep the number of ITT kms low for the French GC riders. Dumoulin will likely go for another Giro win next year, from the looks of it.

 

[Valv.Piti]

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"Tom Dumoulin to analyze GT routes before making final decision of 2018 targets. He knows ASO policy on TDF ITT kms."

https://twitter.com/ammattipyoraily/status/894472054266875904


^ a.k.a. a TDF assault is unlikely as that race will likely keep the number of ITT kms low for the French GC riders. Dumoulin will likely go for another Giro win next year, from the looks of it.

Wise to take it to the media, that might persuade ASO to include a bit more time trial to lure Tom Dumoulin in.

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

Re: Re:

"Tom Dumoulin to analyze GT routes before making final decision of 2018 targets. He knows ASO policy on TDF ITT kms."

https://twitter.com/ammattipyoraily/status/894472054266875904


^ a.k.a. a TDF assault is unlikely as that race will likely keep the number of ITT kms low for the French GC riders. Dumoulin will likely go for another Giro win next year, from the looks of it.

Wise to take it to the media, that might persuade ASO to include a bit more time trial to lure Tom Dumoulin in.

That won't help a bit, IMO. ASO has much more to gain if French riders are legitimate podium contenders.

There's already a long-ish TTT. Doesn't make sense to add more flat ITT from a French perspective - wouldn't even surprise me if they kept it at 0 next year. Perhaps an actual MTT where Barguil, Bardet and Pinot would be competitive.

 

[yaco]

Gee - Dumoulin would have been very competitive with the TDF parcours of 2017 - He has to be competitive if the 2018 parcours are similar.

 

[Red Rick]

So. About versatility

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Well he was already 2nd and 3rd in this race so this is no surprise. That sprint was nice tho.

 

[jsem94]

He's scary right now. Could win both RR and ITT at the WC with the right amount of fortune.

 

[Valv.Piti]

So he only 26? Thought he was younger for some reason. He is insane.

I mean older lol.

 

[Bardamu]

If he maintains this form -which is likely- he might win the World Tour. Greg seems to have lost his legs a little bit.

 

[Red Rick]

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If he maintains this form -which is likely- he might win the World Tour. Greg seems to have lost his legs a little bit.

Was just looking at that. However, from now on it's all one day races for TD and I the variety of results in there is pretty big. I don't think the Worlds give points?

 

[Bardamu]

I guess the Canadian races and the Worlds TT (perhaps RR top 10) give quite some points.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

worlds give no points I think. Only canadian races. Possible he'll do lombardy after? depends on the feeling i guess.

However, I think he made the right choice by not doing vuelta. 4th in San Sebastian and 1th in Binck Banck surely boosted his morale up a lot.

 

[Bardamu]

Ah indeed, the Worlds don't count for the World Tour. I am not sure if he does Lombardia, but I would like to see him there if he still feels good after Bergen.

 

[Akuryo]

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So. About versatility

Still no Kwiatkowski

 

[yaco]

First GT winner to also win this race. Nibali came third in 2007.

 

[classicomano]

Ok thats TT's, GT's and one week races done. Time to go classics hunting next. Maybe try and rival Kittel 2 years from now?

 

[Valv.Piti]

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Ok thats TT's, GT's and one week races done. Time to go classics hunting next. Maybe try and rival Kittel 2 years from now?

He hasn't won Worlds or Olympic yet, one GT and one one week. Lets calm a bit down. :lol: Tons of GT stages for a type like him tho, especially so early in his career.