Teams & Riders Tom Dumoulin discussion thread

[lartiste]

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for me, there is only one sad issue with TD - he is not updating his twitter since October, before he was really doing well, even during pre-season preparation in Africa, nothing now

PS: shake hands issue - it is fair to do that, when the race is over and emotions calmed. The race is over tomorrow. So, what is the problem?

Check his Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tomdumoulin90/

That's freaking hilarious :lol: 46k followers and 1 picture!

And he's verified! Haha

Most probably you have to be approved to see the content?

 

[Blanco]

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Is he planning to ride the Tour to target the TT, dom for Keldermann or have a serious shot at it?

He wants to try for GC.

I doubt he will do anything important in terms of GC there. This Giro was way too hard, and he can't sustain his form for so long, or reach new peak so quickly.

They've explicitly said they thought it was possible. Dumoulin was super tired, but his performances weren't really getting worse at the end of the Giro.

He's also explicitly stated he does not want to go to the Tour if he can do nothing there. I doubt he'll go to the Tour just to go for breakaways.

I also think Dumoulin would be a pretty solid lock for the Vuelta podium if he were to go there.

I'm sure they think it is possible, but I think he'll fade there, we'll see.

 

[Ariane]

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for me, there is only one sad issue with TD - he is not updating his twitter since October, before he was really doing well, even during pre-season preparation in Africa, nothing now

I thought that too til I found this

https://twitter.com/search?q=dumoulin+tom

 

[Red Rick]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLcZkrykEtI&feature=youtu.be

Backstage footage of the deciding mountain stages.

Story of Dumoulin's Giro?

Feeling bad and riding well.

"It would be good if, just before I attack, Sam sets a really strong pace, like, 450-500 Watts"

 

[MuskyOurSaviour]

I don't know if it's mostly because how they edited it, but the biggest takeway seemed to be they were super gloom and doom before Finestre.

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

Wow! That is an awesome video. My takeaways:
1. He seems to have been the only one who expected Froome to do what he did but miscalculated his own abilities a little bit/simply made the wrong decision in the moment re: Reichenbach. Interesting that he seemed certain that Froome is super strong and will attack exactly where he did but did not seem to have any concerns about Yates.

Tom Dumoulin: "If I reach the summit within a half a minute or minute behind well I can close a gap of half a minute in the descent but if it is over a minute behind Froome at the summit it is going to be very hard."

2. I am sure this is true of all of the riders, but, man, he was borderline punch drunk at this point in the race. Definitely exhausted, and you can tell he didn't think he had enough in the tank. "If I magically have the legs," etc. But he rode like a champion through the exhaustion.

Great video. Big fan of Major Tom.

 

[MADRAZO]

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Is he planning to ride the Tour to target the TT, dom for Keldermann or have a serious shot at it?

Kelderman is supposed to only ride the TDF for a stagewin and to prepare for the Vuelta GC, so makes no sence for Dumoulin to ride to be a helper for him. With the Vuelta usually a better preparation for the worlds it pretty much only makes sence for Dumoulin to ride the TDF if he thinks he can win it, and at the same time the plan of Kelderman riding the Tour as preparation for the Vuelta only makes logic sence if he is supposed to be the helper for Dumoulin. So even if they perhaps wont make it a official plan its the only logic plan, though ofcourse its likely it wont work as Giro-TDF doubles rarely does.

 

[PremierAndrew]

I really do wonder what would have happened if Dumo continued to ride when Pinot had his mechanical. Suddenly Lopez and Carapaz would have had an incentive to ride to overtake Pinot in the GC, and would actually have had the strength unlike Reichenbach.

 

[topcat]

Don't bother wondering. The result would have been the same. The podium and the order of it would have been the same. It may change in the future.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Even if Dumoulin would have gotten pink than Froome would have finished him on Cervinia. Looked as fresh as a daisy

 

[Flamin]

http://www.wielerflits.nl/nieuws/36...r-neutralisatie-laatste-rit-giro-ditalia.html

Lol, so it was Dumoulin who called for a neutralization in the Giro. Where the Froome bashers at

 

[SafeBet]

Translation please?

 

[DBotero]

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http://www.wielerflits.nl/nieuws/36...r-neutralisatie-laatste-rit-giro-ditalia.html

Lol, so it was Dumoulin who called for a neutralization in the Giro. Where the Froome bashers at

I don't think it was only Dumoulin.There were more riders who pushed for it.They sent Froome to talk to the officials.

 

[Flamin]

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Translation please?

He went to Froome to propose a neutralization because he thought the route was too dangerous and he didn't want to win because of a crash anyways.

 

[Netserk]

Pff, you disappoint me, Tom.

 

[movingtarget]

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Pff, you disappoint me, Tom.

I'm sure Cancellara would have suggested something more extreme. Some of the circuits are just not used with rider safety in mind. But crashes are always part of the sport on any stage. Sometimes it's just better to whine about it after the stage and make it clear to the race organizers and hope for better next time.

 

[DFA123]

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http://www.wielerflits.nl/nieuws/36...r-neutralisatie-laatste-rit-giro-ditalia.html

Lol, so it was Dumoulin who called for a neutralization in the Giro. Where the Froome bashers at

Well that's pretty embarrassing for a few posters, given their comments in the race thread for the stage.

 

[Red Rick]

Very disappointing decision.

 

[Amazinmets87]

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Even if Dumoulin would have gotten pink than Froome would have finished him on Cervinia. Looked as fresh as a daisy

Froome was absurdly strong on Cervinia. That counterattack had "don't make me humiliate you" written all over it. Dumoulin wisely capitulated and was permitted to rejoin the group and ride for Oomen's placing.

 

[GuyIncognito]

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Pff, you disappoint me, Tom.

I'm sure Cancellara would have suggested something more extreme.

Only if he or a teammate stood to gain

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

To be fair to our resident Froomaphobes, even other riders seem to have thought Sky were the ones calling for neutralization. Bennett - who won the stage and whose team might have been expected to have a significant interest in how it was raced - complained in an interview afterwards that Sky shouldn’t have got their way.

 

[Red Rick]

He starts in the Tour

https://www.telegraaf.nl/sport/wielrennen/2119506/dumoulin-start-in-tour-de-france

Also says he's way more tired than last year.

This seems like a disaster waiting to happen.

 

[dusty red roads]

More tired.... so.... the obvious question - 'why'?

 

[Robert5091]

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More tired.... so.... the obvious question - 'why'?

Sylvan Adams came up with another 2 million Euros? Seems odd- Vuelta &/or just Worlds seems more logical. Maybe he's not so tired but there's a whole bunch of fresh guys at TdF and no long ITT.

 

[Bolder]

You only have so many GTs in your legs as a top level rider. Kind of like elite marathoners. You want to make the most of your chances. But, he's still got a month to recover, so even with the effort in the Giro he should be relatively fresh.