Tony Martin Bandwagon thread

[Barrus]

I just merged most of the Tony Martin threads, because they generally came down to the same thing.

Anyway a question to 'stoned and the other Germans on here. Will a possible top 10 or top 5 finish of Martin at the tour rekindle some of the love of the Germans for cycling and perhaps focus less on the doping angle?

 

[hrotha]

Damn, now I can't check who voted that "Philippe Gilbert" and "Bradley Wiggins" have a different number of syllables and giggle like a pedantic schoolgirl.

 

[boomcie]

Yeah, that was kind of funny. Don't see how anyone could have missed that.

 

[Bavarianrider]

I just merged most of the Tony Martin threads, because they generally came down to the same thing.

Anyway a question to 'stoned and the other Germans on here. Will a possible top 10 or top 5 finish of Martin at the tour rekindle some of the love of the Germans for cycling and perhaps focus less on the doping angle?

Hard to predict. It might. But i don't really think so. Tony would need to battle fr the podium so that the emdia would really acknowledge it. The question is how would they react? Would they cheer him or would they accuse him of doping? Both is possible

 

[taiwan]

FWIW, the "What's wrong with Andy Schleck" thread seems to be in here too.

 

[Barrus]

FWIW, the "What's wrong with Andy Schleck" thread seems to be in here too.

Really? That's a mistake I'll need to rectify

 

[Cobblestoned]

I just merged most of the Tony Martin threads, because they generally came down to the same thing.

Anyway a question to 'stoned and the other Germans on here. Will a possible top 10 or top 5 finish of Martin at the tour rekindle some of the love of the Germans for cycling and perhaps focus less on the doping angle?

Well, you have to differentiate between Germans and German press/journalists.
Its undoubtable that there is still much love for cycling along the road, in clubs and in general.

Of course there are those "mainstream"-Ullrich-fans, who need a tourwinner to enjoy/follow cycling. But German cycling is fine even without them.
Just watch at the great response by people when there is a bikerace in Germany. Not talking about TV. TV coverage is close to not existent.

For example, nothing to see after Degenkolb won 2 times at DL.
Last time when there were mainstream media on cycling, it was when WW died. And not a real surprise to see them reporting again just after Soler crashed.

For most media cycling is the sacrificial lamb and the place to promote anti-doping. They report death, blood and doping - but no cycling.

But you can be sure that media would jump on the bandwagon, report every minute of le Tour, as soon as there is a German Tourwinner again. Everything else is not good enough.
In the end, its all about money, even if they talk otherwise, like ARD and ZDF do it.

 

[The Hitch]

Ya reinstate the syllables thread please. i dont see how its different to the Wonderpoll thread. The Tony Martin title was just a joke but can be changed.

 

[BullsFan22]

I think this Bavarian has multiple personalities

Not to be a stickler or anything, but Tony Martin is not Bavarian, he is from Cottbus, Eastern part of Germany. Same area as Kloden.

 

[taiwan]

Not to be a stickler or anything, but Tony Martin is not Bavarian, he is from Cottbus, Eastern part of Germany. Same area as Kloden.

The Bavarian referred to is not Tony Martin himself, rather Bavarianrider, the No. 1 Tony-touter on the forum.

I think.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Not to be a stickler or anything, but Tony Martin is not Bavarian, he is from Cottbus, Eastern part of Germany. Same area as Kloden.

Chóśebuz, prošu...

 

[DenisMenchov]

Chóśebuz, prošu...

Which language is that, i see it is slavic, but which one, probably Chech?

 

[hrotha]

My guess would be some variant of Sorbian.
edit: Lower Sorbian, apparently.

 

[Bavarianrider]

German TT championchips tomorrow. 43km
So the question is. What will be Tonys gap to the second rider.
Should be 1min+ easily

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Who are his competitors?
Grabsch, Gerdemann, Klöden?

With Klöden it could still be less than 1 minute if he is going

 

[TeoSheva]

Who are his competitors?
Grabsch, Gerdemann, Klöden?

With Klöden it could still be less than 1 minute if he is going

and Kloden in in quite good shape...

 

[Gloin22]

German TT championchips tomorrow. 43km
So the question is. What will be Tonys gap to the second rider.
Should be 1min+ easily

That's the only thing he is capable of so I wouldn't be surprised if he won

 

[Bavarianrider]

Grabsch, Gretsch and Lang are the only notable contenders

 

[Michielveedeebee]

meh I'd rather see Klöden win

 

[Bavarianrider]

Klöden is not competing in BDR events anymore. Nor does he go to the world championchips.

 

[Bavarianrider]

Tony 39 seconds behind Grabsch at 21km
OOhhhhhhh, to be honest iam getting a little scared know.

 

[Ruudz0r]

Link to ticker/stream/something please .

 

[Ruudz0r]

nvm think i got it.

http://www.olympia-eventservice.net/ergebnisse/DM_ezf/Manner/index.php

 

[Bavarianrider]

1 3 Grabsch, Bert 00:49:51.38 51.99
2 1 Martin, Tony 00:50:50.60 00:00:59.22 50.98
3 2 Gretsch, Patrick 00:51:25.30 00:01:33.92 50.41
4 42 Stockhausen, Richard 00:51:28.90 00:01:37.52 50.35
5 9 Lang, Sebastian 00:51:33.41 00:01:42.03 50.27
6 11 Knees, Christian 00:51:55.26 00:02:03.88 49.92
7 12 Seubert, Timon 00:52:01.42 00:02:10.04 49.82
8 8 Schumacher, Stefan 00:53:02.56 00:03:11.18 48.87
9 13 Weicht, Michael 00:53:11.74 00:03:20.36 48.73
10 7 Kittel, Marcel 00:53:24.87 00:03:33.49 48.53
11 10 Fothen, Markus 00:53:34.28 00:03:42.90 48.38
12 6 Meingast, Friedrich 00:53:56.56 00:04:05.18 48.05
13 5 Fuchs, Sergej 00:54:10.95 00:04:19.57 47.84
14 17 Eichler, Markus 00:54:15.32 00:04:23.94 47.77
15 14 Schädlich, Lucas 00:54:22.26 00:04:30.88 47.67
16 19 Rösch, David 00:54:24.60 00:04:33.22 47.64
17 20 Westmattelmann, Daniel 00:54:34.92 00:04:43.54 47.49
18 43 Knobloch, Enrico 00:55:23.12 00:05:31.74 46.80
19 34 Obst, René 00:55:23.35 00:05:31.97 46.80
20 22 Vieten, Rolf-Martin 00:55:35.26 00:05:43.88 46.63
21 26 Gaebel, Stefan 00:55:40.53 00:05:49.15 46.56
22 25 Fiedler, Jacob 00:55:49.90 00:05:58.52 46.43
23 40 Focardi, Giulio 00:56:02.37 00:06:10.99 46.25
24 24 Höber, Benjamin 00:56:07.43 00:06:16.05 46.18
25 35 Schütz, Moritz 00:56:26.00 00:06:34.62 45.93
26 38 Sifflet, Stephan 00:56:29.00 00:06:37.62 45.89
27 28 Bartlau, Lars 00:56:39.93 00:06:48.55 45.74
28 39 Schmeiser, Jonas 00:56:59.96 00:07:08.58 45.47
29 41 Henrich, Gerrit 00:57:12.41 00:07:21.03 45.31
30 29 Pancratz, Sebastian 00:57:29.27 00:07:37.89 45.09
31 16 Salzinger, Florian 00:57:29.94 00:07:38.56 45.08
32 23 Heinze, René 00:57:35.77 00:07:44.39 45.00
33 18 Schulz, Philip 00:57:40.28 00:07:48.90 44.94
34 21 Boos, Alexander 00:58:51.69 00:09:00.31 44.04
35 37 Schnapka, Matthias 00:59:20.52 00:09:29.14 43.68
36 36 Jung, Bastian 01:01:13.12 00:11:21.74 42.34


It's good to see Grabsch is in form considering the TTT.
But Tonys gap is too big. He isn't where he should be. I am concerned about his form

 

[dlwssonic]

1 3 Grabsch, Bert 00:49:51.38 51.99
2 1 Martin, Tony 00:50:50.60 00:00:59.22 50.98
3 2 Gretsch, Patrick 00:51:25.30 00:01:33.92 50.41
4 42 Stockhausen, Richard 00:51:28.90 00:01:37.52 50.35
5 9 Lang, Sebastian 00:51:33.41 00:01:42.03 50.27
6 11 Knees, Christian 00:51:55.26 00:02:03.88 49.92
7 12 Seubert, Timon 00:52:01.42 00:02:10.04 49.82
8 8 Schumacher, Stefan 00:53:02.56 00:03:11.18 48.87
9 13 Weicht, Michael 00:53:11.74 00:03:20.36 48.73
10 7 Kittel, Marcel 00:53:24.87 00:03:33.49 48.53
11 10 Fothen, Markus 00:53:34.28 00:03:42.90 48.38
12 6 Meingast, Friedrich 00:53:56.56 00:04:05.18 48.05
13 5 Fuchs, Sergej 00:54:10.95 00:04:19.57 47.84
14 17 Eichler, Markus 00:54:15.32 00:04:23.94 47.77
15 14 Schädlich, Lucas 00:54:22.26 00:04:30.88 47.67
16 19 Rösch, David 00:54:24.60 00:04:33.22 47.64
17 20 Westmattelmann, Daniel 00:54:34.92 00:04:43.54 47.49
18 43 Knobloch, Enrico 00:55:23.12 00:05:31.74 46.80
19 34 Obst, René 00:55:23.35 00:05:31.97 46.80
20 22 Vieten, Rolf-Martin 00:55:35.26 00:05:43.88 46.63
21 26 Gaebel, Stefan 00:55:40.53 00:05:49.15 46.56
22 25 Fiedler, Jacob 00:55:49.90 00:05:58.52 46.43
23 40 Focardi, Giulio 00:56:02.37 00:06:10.99 46.25
24 24 Höber, Benjamin 00:56:07.43 00:06:16.05 46.18
25 35 Schütz, Moritz 00:56:26.00 00:06:34.62 45.93
26 38 Sifflet, Stephan 00:56:29.00 00:06:37.62 45.89
27 28 Bartlau, Lars 00:56:39.93 00:06:48.55 45.74
28 39 Schmeiser, Jonas 00:56:59.96 00:07:08.58 45.47
29 41 Henrich, Gerrit 00:57:12.41 00:07:21.03 45.31
30 29 Pancratz, Sebastian 00:57:29.27 00:07:37.89 45.09
31 16 Salzinger, Florian 00:57:29.94 00:07:38.56 45.08
32 23 Heinze, René 00:57:35.77 00:07:44.39 45.00
33 18 Schulz, Philip 00:57:40.28 00:07:48.90 44.94
34 21 Boos, Alexander 00:58:51.69 00:09:00.31 44.04
35 37 Schnapka, Matthias 00:59:20.52 00:09:29.14 43.68
36 36 Jung, Bastian 01:01:13.12 00:11:21.74 42.34


It's good to see Grabsch is in form considering the TTT.
But Tonys gap is too big. He isn't where he should be. I am concerned about his form

tony got owned