Tony Martin Bandwagon thread

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Will Tony Martin reach a Top Ten overall finish at this year's Tour de France

  • Hell No

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Bye Bye Bicycle said:
TvG was already pro but still age wise U23 when riding last year's elite TT worlds (ending 24th). Same for Dominique Cornu in 2007.
You can't compete in the u23 WC if you have a contract with a Pro Tour/World Tour team. That's why Gallopin could ride the u23 WC last year after doing the Vuelta, but Van Garderen couldn't (even if he had had any interest in doing so, which is doubtful).
 
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hrotha said:
You can't compete in the u23 WC if you have a contract with a Pro Tour/World Tour team. That's why Gallopin could ride the u23 WC last year after doing the Vuelta, but Van Garderen couldn't (even if he had had any interest in doing so, which is doubtful).
Yeah, that was ridiculous. The Vuelta as preparation for the U23 Worlds. The French start the Tour de l'Avenir with 12 riders, and they send pros to the U23 Worlds, but still they win neither.
 
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theyoungest said:
Yeah, that was ridiculous. The Vuelta as preparation for the U23 Worlds. The French start the Tour de l'Avenir with 12 riders, and they send pros to the U23 Worlds, but still they win neither.
Romain Sicard :p
 
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He'll become the next Rogers. No more top TT-er, but just below, and a just above average climber. So top 10 in the Tour but no real weapon anymore :p
 
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Dekker_Tifosi said:
He'll become the next Rogers. No more top TT-er, but just below, and a just above average climber. So top 10 in the Tour but no real weapon anymore :p

Well it can not be denied that the risk is there. Every big powerfull rider who wants to do well in GT takes this risk.
 
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Bavarianrider said:
Well it can not be denied that the risk is there. Every big powerfull rider who wants to do well in GT takes this risk.
It worked for Wiggins though. He looks like a walking skeleton, but his TT power is still there.
 
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theyoungest said:
It worked for Wiggins though. He looks like a walking skeleton, but his TT power is still there.

But it's a very thin line. I hope Tony will never looks like Wiggins.
 
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Bavarianrider said:
But it's a very thin line. I hope Tony will never looks like Wiggins.

On the other hand, looking like that helped Wiggins come 4th in the Tour and miraculously learn how to climb, so maybe that's something Tony could learn from.
 
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Yeah but I sometimes feel Wiggins has a smarter approach on climbing. Much like Nibali. Ride your own tempo and don't go with attacks you can't follow anyway.

Tony Martin often throws his powers away while he should just 'TT' up the climb instead
 
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Dekker_Tifosi said:
He'll become the next Rogers. No more top TT-er, but just below, and a just above average climber. So top 10 in the Tour but no real weapon anymore :p

A bit early for such a judgement, no?
 
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Dekker_Tifosi said:
Yeah but I sometimes feel Wiggins has a smarter approach on climbing. Much like Nibali. Ride your own tempo and don't go with attacks you can't follow anyway.

Tony Martin often throws his powers away while he should just 'TT' up the climb instead

I totally agree with this. Stay within your limitations.
 
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spalco said:
A bit early for such a judgement, no?
That's why I put the smiley behind it. But perhaps next time I should put tags in front of the sentence to make myself even clearer.

Like [cynical] or [sarcastic] or [sad] or [happy] or [emotional response] :eek:
 
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Bavarianrider said:
But it's a very thin line. I hope Tony will never looks like Wiggins.
This is creepy. Why would you care what he looks like? Even if you are gay, it'd be ridiculous to support an athlete because of their looks.
 
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hrotha said:
This is creepy. Why would you care what he looks like? Even if you are gay, it'd be ridiculous to support an athlete because of their looks.

Sez someone who doesn't like baldies. :p
 
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hrotha said:
This is creepy. Why would you care what he looks like? Even if you are gay, it'd be ridiculous to support an athlete because of their looks.

:confused::confused:

Actually one of the reasons i like Tony is the fact that he's not one of those super skinny riders. I like the big athletic guys. What's wrong with that?:confused:
 
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So skinny guys can't be athletic?

Well I wonder if you saw them up front. Even super skinny Brajkovic when I met him in real life had muscles of steel and twice my legs.
A skinny guy like Gesink can put out 510W at treshold for 30 minutes in test laborities.. that's what most power guys even can't do
 
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Dekker_Tifosi said:
So skinny guys can't be athletic?

Well I wonder if you saw them up front. Even super skinny Brajkovic when I met him in real life had muscles of steel and twice my legs.
A skinny guy like Gesink can put out 510W at treshold for 30 minutes in test laborities.. that's what most power guys even can't do


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Well if you can cheer for those guys fine, i don't. And i don't consider them athetic
 
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You're taking the extreme here (Rasmussen) :rolleyes:
As always you can't see reason.

If skinny guys weren't athletic they'd be nowhere in this sport. They have (far) more muscle power than you give them credit for.