Tony Martin brute hero said:Brian Holm says he is out![]()
Quickstep DS Brian Holm just told Danish journalist @Staghoj that Tony Martin HAS NOT abandoned the race. At hospital for X-ray now
Tony Martin brute hero said:
Bavarianrider said:Great news.
Tomorrow will be very tough i guess, though.
c&cfan said:anyway, canc wouldn't give him a chance, especially at the olympics.
c&cfan said:anyway, canc wouldn't give him a chance, especially at the olympics.
The Olympics (let's hope he will be in topform in London and hope his injuries heal well) will show the truth, Martin is powerfull as no otherBavarianrider said:Cancelara hasn't beaten Tony in a long TT since 2010![]()
Bavarianrider said:Cancelara hasn't beaten Tony in a long TT since 2010![]()
Cancellara is a more complete rider yes but Martin is better in the Time Trial, is stronger in the real mountains, he can possibly beat Cance in a prologuec&cfan said:canc was only beaten by tony in 2011.
the truth is, he wasn't at his best that year, obviously.
canc is better on the flat, better on hills, faster, and no one has the same "engine". however tony recovers better.
Tony Martin brute hero said:Cancellara is a more complete rider yes but Martin is better in the Time Trial, is stronger in the real mountains, he can possibly beat Cance in a prologue
c&cfan said:he can beat him in a prologue if canc isn't at his best and he can beat canc ( if he is at his best) but only after 3 weeks of racing. both on top form for a TT without prior stages? canc wins 9 out 10, as he did.
Bavarianrider said:Yeah that's why Tony totally trashed Cancellara in the worlds in 2011![]()
This makes no sense at all, in the prologue Martin had a flat tyre, yesterday he had a fracture in his hand, they haven't raced against eachother for the rest of the yearc&cfan said:9 out of 10.
canc was worse than in previous years, as the results show.
right know canc is already better again, obviously.
c&cfan said:9 out of 10.
canc was worse than in previous years, as the results show.
right know canc is already better again, obviously.
canc trashed tony pretty much anywhere prior to 2011. it was a bad year (just like this one until now, but shape isn't the factor here).
canc is much better as rider and as TTer. most likely the best TTer ever, by a not so small margin.
Bavarianrider said:Tony hadn't reached his peak before 2011 in TT. Not quiet uncommon that you are not at yet your top at age 24 25 yet, isn'T it?
c&cfan said:of course and most likely he still isn't, right? but right now canc still is the best rider and the best TTer, as his palmares show.
you also have to understand lack of motivation when you are destroying every TT 6 years in a row.
thanks to big tony, canc is back. they are both awesome.
Bavarianrider said:Tony beat Cancellara in every TT in 2011.
In 2010 it was a 2 -2 draw.