Top 10 male riders of the 21st century.

[Jancouver]

I don't really agree, but here it is:
1 VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro 21692
2 REBELLIN Davide 16943
3 EVANS Cadel 15614
4 BOONEN Tom 15557
5 ZABEL Erik 15308
6 GILBERT Philippe 15095
7 CANCELLARA Fabian 14696
8 CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto 14029
9 RODRIGUEZ OLIVER Joaquim 14002
10 BETTINI Paolo 13590
11 NIBALI Vincenzo 13325
12 FREIRE GOMEZ Oscar 13300
13 SANCHEZ GONZALEZ Samuel 13205
14 CUNEGO Damiano 12240
15 PETACCHI Alessandro 12103
16 MCEWEN Robbie 11078
17 ARMSTRONG Lance 10990
18 DI LUCA Danilo 10786
19 VINOKOUROV Alexandre 10074
20 HUSHOVD Thor 10030
21 CHAVANEL Sylvain 9985
22 CAVENDISH Mark 9932
23 BASSO Ivan 9816
24 LEIPHEIMER Levi 9813
25 VOIGT Jens 9729

Thanks! I think technically you are correct about the 2001. We can call this the best rider of 2000's

 

[Big Doopie]

Daniel Martin
Rohan Dennis
Taylor Phinney
Thibaut Pinot
Pierre Roland

That's all folks.

 

[Cance > TheRest]

IMO Chavanel is a very talented rider. He should have won a lot more.
He rides to aggressive and attacks way to early.

Why not Stybar he could win PR. He's not had much luck and you do need a bit of fortune.

Sagan has earned his place IMO. Very talented but like Chavanel his tactics are not always the best.

Still, what they might do in the future (or might have done in other circumstances) has absolutely nothing to with how great they have performed since 2000, which is the question of the thread. It's all about results and wins, NOT pseudo predictions and potential results.

 

[cineteq]

J-rod has 36 victories to Vino's 31.

Plus 2 of Purito's GT podiums could've been "easily" 2 wins.

 

[Netserk]

J-rod has 36 victories to Vino's 31.

Here are their major victories stacked up:

J-rod:

2x Il Lombardia (2013, 2012)
8x stage Vuelta a Espana (2013, 2012, 2011, 2010, 2003)
2x GC Volta Ciclista a Catalunya (2014, 2010)
La Fl�che Wallonne (2012)
GC Setmana-Catalana (2004)
4x stage Vuelta Ciclista al Pais Vasco (2012, 2011, 2010)
GC Vuelta A Burgos (2011)
4x stage Tirreno-Adriatico (2013, 2012, 2009, 2008)
2x stage Giro d�Italia (2012)
Gran Premio Miguel Indurain (2010)
2ndGC Giro d�Italia (2012)
stage Tour de France (2010)

Vino:

2x Li�ge-Bastogne-Li�ge (2010, 2005)
2x GC Paris - Nice (2003, 2002)
GC Vuelta a Espana (2006)
Olympic Games Road Race (2012)
4x stage Tour de France (2010, 2005, 2003)
GC Crit�rium du Dauphin� (1999)
GC Tour de Suisse (2003)
Amstel Gold Race (2003)
3x stage Vuelta a Espana (2006, 2000)
5x stage Paris - Nice (2004, 2003, 2002)
GC Giro del Trentino (2010)
3x stage Tour de Suisse (2003, 2002, 2001)

Why do you list a podium place in a list of victories? And why not all wins?

 

[LaFlorecita]

So I tried a pseudo scientific approach: I analysed the CQ rankings of 2001-2014, and looked at the total score for each rider (I only used the top 100 of each year!)
(a lot of methodological remarks should be made here, but I believe it is a nice starting point for a less biased view).

This is the top 25:
1 VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro 21692
2 EVANS Cadel 15614
3 BOONEN Tom 15557
4 REBELLIN Davide 15416
5 GILBERT Philippe 15095
6 CANCELLARA Fabian 14696
7 CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto 14029
8 RODRIGUEZ OLIVER Joaquim 14002
9 ZABEL Erik 13357
10 NIBALI Vincenzo 13325
11 SANCHEZ GONZALEZ Samuel 13205
12 BETTINI Paolo 12299
13 CUNEGO Damiano 12240
14 FREIRE GOMEZ Oscar 12037
15 PETACCHI Alessandro 11381
16 MCEWEN Robbie 11078
17 DI LUCA Danilo 10112
18 HUSHOVD Thor 10030
19 CHAVANEL Sylvain 9985
20 CAVENDISH Mark 9932
21 BASSO Ivan 9816
22 LEIPHEIMER Levi 9813
23 GREIPEL André 9605
24 VINOKOUROV Alexandre 9224
25 ARMSTRONG Lance 9096

Of course if we disregard doping suspensions Alberto would be at 17560

 

[ray j willings]

Still, what they might do in the future (or might have done in other circumstances) has absolutely nothing to with how great they have performed since 2000, which is the question of the thread. It's all about results and wins, NOT pseudo predictions and potential results.

I thought the idea was to name your favourite top 10 male riders.
If you want to pick the winners then just look in the record books.

 

[LaFlorecita]

The order didn't mean anything

That's what I assumed, but I thought it was a good idea to make clear that it wasn't the order of my top 10 because I posted I agreed with it

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

Why do you list a podium place in a list of victories? And why not all wins?

aye, Vino 3rd in tour > JRod 2nd in giro, or at the very least =

 

[Jspear]

Why do you list a podium place in a list of victories? And why not all wins?

Those were their "major" results off procyclingstats...didn't realize the podium in there...would have taken it out.

When it comes to comparing these two riders, those lists are the main victories people are going to look at. Sure they had other victories but for this discussion those are enough.

 

[Jancouver]

Purito is consistent but other than Lombardia he got no big wins other than few GT stages (mostly Vuelta) and some minor GC races. Sorry, he is not top 10 caliber ...

 

[Jspear]

Purito has three podiums. 2nd in the Giro and a 3rd place in the other two. Vino has also podiumed the Tour (but was actually in contention for the win) and has won the Vuelta. I fail to see how two podiums are better than one win. I very much doubt he has won more races in general than Vino. I also rate two Liege over two Lombardia, and ofc an OGRR gold over any number of meaningless PT classifications.

Surely you can see how some would rate Jrod higher than Vino? I'm not sure If I personally would, but people who would say that have a point I think.

Jrod's top 10's in gt's:

Vuelta: 4th, 4th, 3rd, 4th, 7th, 6th,
Giro: 2nd, 4th,
Tour 3rd

Vino's

Vuelta: 1st,
Giro: 6th
Tour: 5th, 3rd,

 

[Jancouver]

Surely you can see how some would rate Jrod higher than Vino? I'm not sure If I personally would, but people who would say that have a point I think.

Jrod's top 10's in gt's:

Vuelta: 4th, 4th, 3rd, 4th, 7th, 6th,
Giro: 2nd, 4th,
Tour 3rd

Vino's

Vuelta: 1st,
Giro: 6th
Tour: 5th, 3rd,

I rate Vino's win on Champs-Élysées higher than all Purito's wins combined. One of the most epic wins ever. You have to have some class, skills and guts to out-fox all the sprinters.

Purito on the other hand, is one-trick-pony with nothing else than a short uphill sprint where he can take advantage of his midget size.

 

[Jspear]

I rate Vino's win on Champs-Élysées higher than all Purito's wins combined. One of the most epic wins ever. You have to have some class, skills and guts to out-fox all the sprinters.

Purito on the other hand, is one-trick-pony with nothing else than a short uphill sprint where he can take advantage of his midget size.

Wow! So that single win is better than multiple gt stage wins, two Lombardia's, ect...wow!

 

[Jancouver]

Wow! So that single win is better than multiple gt stage wins, two Lombardia's, ect...wow!

As you can read from my other post, just a few posts above, I do give Purito credit for the Lombardia wins but personally, I just rate that one win in Paris higher than those two Lombardias combined.

Most of Puritos other wins are form 2nd and 3rd tear races. Just my opinion, nothing more.

Plus Vino got Olympic Games win and 2x LBL + Amstel if we are talking big one day races.

 

[cineteq]

I rate Vino's win on Champs-Élysées higher than all Purito's wins combined.

Are you serious?

 

[Jancouver]

Are you serious?

He got no big wins and even Lombardia is being moved on the calendar back and forth and that is not helping

... and many of the top names are not there because of that.

Its almost like winning TDU in October

Or can you name one big WOW type of win from Purito's resume?

 

[cineteq]

He got no big wins and even Lombardia is being moved on the calendar back and forth and that is not helping

... and many of the top names are not there because of that.

Its almost like winning TDU in October

Or can you name one big WOW type of win from Purito's resume?

Come on, the guy is very limited, and see what he's done. 2 very close GT wins, and that has to count.

He's not top 10 though.

 

[Jancouver]

Come on, the guy is very limited, and see what he's done. 2 very close GT wins, and that has to count.

He's not top 10 though.

I agree, very solid rider but missing the top 10 quality, no wow factor or memorable wins

 

[Rollthedice]

No particular order but here's my take:

Armstrong
Contador
Vino
Basso
Boonen
Canc
Nibali
Valverde
Evans
Freire

 

[Netserk]

What does Freire have that Bettini doesn't? Both have two worlds and three monuments in this century, but Bettini has won the world cup for what? three years in a row? And the OGRR as well.

 

[Buffalo Soldier]

Bettini has 4 (or 5) monuments this century

 

[GP Blanco]

What does Freire have that Bettini doesn't? Both have two worlds and three monuments in this century, but Bettini has won the world cup for what? three years in a row? And the OGRR as well.

Being able to win shortly after injuries and of course his image as a dreamer.

 

[Buffalo Soldier]

A lot of it depends on how much importance you put on the GTs.
For example: I see no single reason why to put Basso in a top 10.
The guy has won about 15 races/stages in his entire carreer...

 

[Netserk]

Bettini has 4 (or 5) monuments this century

Yeah, somehow had a brainfart so big I forgot his MSR win


EDIT:
I think the top-5 (objectively speaking) are certain (In alphabetical order): Armstrong, Bettini, Boonen, Cancellara & Contador

After them there's a lot of others that will depend on what you prefer: Freire, Gilbert, Vino, Valverde, Cunego, Evans, Nibali, Cavendish, Petacchi, Di Luca P), McEwen, Zabel, Basso, Ullrich, Heras, Simoni etc.