Tour de France 2011 Stage 9: Issoire - Saint-Flour 208 km

[dlwssonic]

Cuddles retrospective over there --------->

huh i dont get it??

 

[Ramira]

Happened every GT. It's just getting more focus this year.

I'm not sure about that, I don't remember AC having a lot of mechanicals and/or crashes in the past years. To me that's the biggest indicator he might be a bit tired after the Giro, he's usually an incredibly alert rider who doesn't get caught out but tiredness can take the edge out of even the greatest athletes.

 

[MrRoboto]

BMC could have been riding in front for all we know. What a crappy production.

 

[just some guy]

I think the main reason that many people on this forum is anti-Cadel is because of the over-the-top fans of Evans.

replace any name with Cadel and Evans but a very good point

 

[Publicus]

huh i dont get it??

I mean take that conversation elsewhere. Seriously, I like Cuddles but this is getting freaking ridiculous (it has NOTHING to do with this stage).

 

[sportzchick]

believe it or not I want to go through one tour de france watching the race and commenting rather then trying to defend my rider from unfair critisim....it gets tiring

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

I'm not sure about that, I don't remember AC having a lot of mechanicals and/or crashes in the past years. To me that's the biggest indicator he might be a bit tired after the Giro, he's usually an incredibly alert rider who doesn't get caught out but tiredness can take the edge out of even the greatest athletes.

exactly, bit like how lance rode last year. the string luck was over and so was his tour

 

[thehog]

Versus doing a Contador folly section. The crashes of Contador. They're loving it.

 

[Dermie]

Live coverage
What's going on with bert.
Has he fallen out with his team

 

[dlwssonic]

I think the main reason that many people on this forum is anti-Cadel is because of the over-the-top fans of Evans.

there arent many i can think off the most prominent being me and ACF. the others arent that big of ones or arent regular posters.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

believe it or not I want to go through one tour de france watching the race and commenting rather then trying to defend my rider from unfair critisim....it gets tiring

then just shut up, nobody asks you to defend him, neither does evans.

answer me this, if evans was not australian would you still be fan of him? don't answer to me but to yourself.

 

[AussieGoddess]

thor, please let tommy V. have yellow

i like breaks succeeding.

Yeah I would like to see Tommy in yellow .... But I would prefer to see Gilbert in green so am hoping the break gets caught actually

 

[dlwssonic]

I mean take that conversation elsewhere. Seriously, I like Cuddles but this is getting freaking ridiculous (it has NOTHING to do with this stage).

?? I was just trying to explain to sportzchick that it would be wrong by BMC to ramp up the pace when AC crashed.

 

[sportzchick]

then just shut up, nobody asks you to defend him, neither does evans.

answer me this, if evans was not australian would you still be fan of him? don't answer to me but to yourself.

I can say I would as ive had plenty of practic in sports where there is no Aussies - if someone is going to bag my favorite in any sport I will defend them...it that makes me over the top then so be it

 

[Publicus]

I'm not sure about that, I don't remember AC having a lot of mechanicals and/or crashes in the past years. To me that's the biggest indicator he might be a bit tired after the Giro, he's usually an incredibly alert rider who doesn't get caught out but tiredness can take the edge out of even the greatest athletes.

He's only been in one crash that he caused (the one that just occurred). All of the other incidents were unavoidable. But I do agree the number of incidents have risen compared to previous GTs, which very well could be proof of his fatigue.

 

[craig1985]

I'm enjoying Matt Keenen so far.

 

[zapata]

believe it or not I want to go through one tour de france watching the race and commenting rather then trying to defend my rider from unfair critisim....it gets tiring

Take it easy with the persecution complex, will you please?

 

[Ramira]

replace any name with Cadel and Evans but a very good point

Going to have to agree with this. While I love this forum there are absurd over the top fans and haters for the majority of the high caliber riders (Evans/Contador/Schlecklet/Cancellara etc). It's not something particularly against Evans in any way, the conversation just happened to center on Evans in this thread so the fans and haters came out, if it had been about AC or AS the same would've happened.

How about we forget about this discussion and focus on the potential of today's stage we got a very high caliber lead group fighting hard to stay away, isn't that a much better subject then whether or not Evans is a wheelsucker or a good/bad person?

On that subject, I'm a bit worried about the presence of LL Sanchez in the break, while Tommy V is a lot closer in the GC Sanchez is a top 10-15 rider and he's only 3+ minutes behind, I doubt they'll want to give him to much time.

 

[Ferminal]

Seriously people...

There will probably be a few strikes to get handed out, given we managed to end up back where we were, but I will have to go back over it.

Next person to discuss Evans not related to today's stage and TdF will receive harsher punishments.

 

[sportzchick]

I'm enjoying Matt Keenen so far.

he is very good - wish we could replace him with Paul Sherwin

 

[YoRUsh]

there arent many i can think off the most prominent being me and ACF. the others arent that big of ones or arent regular posters.

True, but ive noticed the two of you are real easy to bait. If you sometimes just let people get away with some of the accusations against Evans I bet the hate will cool down pretty fast. And at least the two of you show some knowledge of cycling

 

[Publicus]

?? I was just trying to explain to sportzchick that it would be wrong by BMC to ramp up the pace when AC crashed.

Apologies. The Cuddles retrospective has been going on quite a bit today, but I re-read your post and I shouldn't have responded that way.

 

[sportzchick]

True, but ive noticed the two of you are real easy to bait. If you sometimes just let people get away with some of the accusations against Evans I bet the hate will cool down pretty fast. And at least the two of you show some knowledge of cycling

but why should I?????? Just to keep his haters and the forum happy?

 

[dlwssonic]

True, but ive noticed the two of you are real easy to bait. If you sometimes just let people get away with some of the accusations against Evans I bet the hate will cool down pretty fast. And at least the two of you show some knowledge of cycling

I didnt really care about the threads about the water evans sprayed. Yes we are all season long cycling fans, supporting BMC from the tour down under to lombardy. never stopping!

 

[AussieGoddess]

I'm enjoying Matt Keenen so far.

+ 1

Just Phil and Paul that give me the ****s