Tour de France 2013

[barmaher]

Thanks, I missed that. I am glad.

 

[guncha]

It looks as if the Alpe stage may be the finale. So no Champs Elysees.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/alpe-dhuez-to-replace-champs-elysees-as-tour-de-france-2013-finale

That would be weird. It jives with having the ITT on the Wednesday, but I don't like it.

It is not going to happen.
But still, this route looks better than this year - it is about to have 3 GC stages in Alpes instead of one and 2 GC stages in Pyrenees like this year. And from two ITT one might flat, another hilly.

 

[TheEnoculator]

It is not going to happen.
But still, this route looks better than this year - it is about to have 3 GC stages in Alpes instead of one and 2 GC stages in Pyrenees like this year. And from two ITT one might flat, another hilly.

Thank God this won't happen. Of all the things they can change in the Tour, finishing at Champs-Élysées cannot be touched. It's a ritual and the best location to present the winners, and allows the winner to enjoy some champagne on the road. It's part of what makes the TdF special.

They can make the double L'Alpe d'Huez climbs happen in the second last stage though.

 

[Linkinito]

Thank God this won't happen. Of all the things they can change in the Tour, finishing at Champs-Élysées cannot be touched. It's a ritual and the best location to present the winners, and allows the winner to enjoy some champagne on the road. It's part of what makes the TdF special.

They can make the double L'Alpe d'Huez climbs happen in the second last stage though.

Yep, and that would make it a Triple ADH. Can't happen at all.

Anyway some rumors are talking about a stage between Annemasse and Dole on Saturday 20. Which would take away one mountain stage. But these are rumors, there are no hotels reserved on that date around Dole, while there still are some in Annecy.

 

[maxmartin]

Thank God this won't happen. Of all the things they can change in the Tour, finishing at Champs-Élysées cannot be touched. It's a ritual and the best location to present the winners, and allows the winner to enjoy some champagne on the road. It's part of what makes the TdF special.

They can make the double L'Alpe d'Huez climbs happen in the second last stage though.

wrong finishing at Champs-Élysées only started from 1975, so that is far away from being a ritual. But I do agree that is a nice place to present winners.

 

[cineteq]

wrong finishing at Champs-Élysées only started from 1975, so that is far away from being a ritual. But I do agree that is a nice place to present winners.

I'm hoping for a TT like in 1989.

 

[TheEnoculator]

wrong finishing at Champs-Élysées only started from 1975, so that is far away from being a ritual. But I do agree that is a nice place to present winners.

I know that. I said it's a ritual, I didn't say it's been around forever. Calling something ritual can be a way of emphasizing the "specialness" of something.

 

[TheEnoculator]

I'm hoping for a TT like in 1989.

I'd trade "champagne on the road" for a TT. Either way, they have to finish in Paris.

 

[Dedelou]

wrong finishing at Champs-Élysées only started from 1975, so that is far away from being a ritual. But I do agree that is a nice place to present winners.

actually the 1970 Tour de France finished in the champs-Elysees
"23 19 July Versailles – Paris Champs-Élysées Individual time trial 54 km (34 mi) Eddy Merckx (BEL)

 

[movingtarget]

I'm hoping for a TT like in 1989.

Similar to 2012 Giro ? Okay the gap was smaller in 89 but Giro finale was still good to watch.

 

[McLovin]

http://www.velowire.com/article/657...-rumeurs-sur-le-parcours-et-les-etapes--.html


1 sa. 29 juin 2013 Porto-Vecchio Bastia 200 km
2 di. 30 juin 2013 Bastia Ajaccio 155 km
3 lu. 1er juillet 2013 Ajaccio Calvi 145 km
4 ma. 2 juillet 2013 Nice Nice ~20 km - CLM par équipes
5 me. 3 juillet 2013 Cagnes-sur-Mer Marseille
6 je. 4 juillet 2013 Aix-en-Provence Montpellier
7 ve. 5 juillet 2013 Montpellier Albi
8 sa. 6 juillet 2013 Castres Ax-3 Domaines
9 di. 7 juillet 2013 Saint-Girons Bagnères-de-Bigorre
R1 lu. 8 juillet 2013 repos en Loire-Atlantique
10 ma. 9 juillet 2013 Saint-Gildas-des-Bois Saint-Malo
11 me. 10 juillet 2013 Avranches Mont Saint-Michel CLM individuel
12 je. 11 juillet 2013 Fougères Tours
13 ve. 12 juillet 2013 Tours Saint-Amand-Montrond
14 sa. 13 juillet 2013 Saint-Pourçain-sur-Sioule Lyon
15 di. 14 juillet 2013 Lyon (Givors) Mont-Ventoux
R2 lu. 15 juillet 2013 repos dans le Vaucluse (Orange & Avignon)
16 ma. 16 juillet 2013 Vaison-la-Romaine Gap
17 me. 17 juillet 2013 Embrun Chorges CLM individuel
18 je. 18 juillet 2013 Gap Alpe d'Huez (double ascension)
19 ve. 19 juillet 2013 Bourg d'Oisans Le Grand Bornand
20 sa. 20 juillet 2013 Annecy Annecy
21 di. 21 juillet 2013 Versailles Paris Champs-Elysées arrivée nocturne !

 

[airstream]

One more Tour of renewal. Apparently all mountains stage won't be difficult without considering final ascents.

 

[McLovin]

One more Tour of renewal. Apparently all mountains stage won't be difficult without considering final ascents.

Ironic, the most difficult one could be stage 9, with a descent and some flat after aspin/ancizan.

 

[airstream]

Ironic, the most difficult one could be stage 9, with a descent and some flat after aspin/ancizan.

The stage from Lyon to Mont Ventoux doesn't look plausible. According to nowadays standarts it should be a 100k one...

 

[Bavarianrider]

Those TTes would be pathetic in terms ofl length

 

[Bavarianrider]

The stage from Lyon to Mont Ventoux doesn't look plausible. According to nowadays standarts it should be a 100k one...

Indeed would be up to 250km at least.
Can't see that one.

 

[rghysens]

Indeed would be up to 250km at least.
Can't see that one.

It says: Lyon(Givors) - Mont Ventoux.
The shortest way from Givors to Malaucène (west side ventoux) is 200km, the shortest way between Givors to Bédoin (south side ventoux) is 212km. So that means 220 to 233 km for the stage. If the official start is some km's outside the town centre of Givors, it's about 225km. Nothing special. Prud'homme will probably call it a 'heroic stage': 200km of flat nothingness and one "mythical" climb.

 

[rghysens]

Those TTes would be pathetic in terms ofl length

You don't know it yet. They can make some kind of loop. The tt's Saint-Etienne - Saint-Etienne in 1997 or Annécy-Annécy in 2009 weren't exactly 0km either.

 

[Magnus]

Indeed would be up to 250km at least.
Can't see that one.

If it starts in Givors as indicated it could be 215 km if they do the Malucene ascent or 230 if they do the Bedoin ascent.

 

[Magnus]

You don't know it yet. They can make some kind of loop. The tt's Saint-Etienne - Saint-Etienne in 1997 or Annécy-Annécy in 2009 weren't exactly 0km either.

Embrun->Col de Pontins->Col Lebraut-> Chorges would be an awesome route for a TT. But rather unlikely since it's ~68 km.

 

[Bavarianrider]

Embrun->Col de Pontins->Col Lebraut-> Chorges would be an awesome route for a TT. But rather unlikely since it's ~68 km.

Killer

 

[Eshnar]

20 sa. 20 juillet 2013 Annecy Annecy

Ok before responding me bear in mind that I did not follow this thread until now.

What's supposed to be in this stage?

 

[webvan]

First time it's been mentioned AFAIK, seems odd, another ITT, making it 3 ?!

 

[Bavarianrider]

First time it's been mentioned AFAIK, seems odd, another ITT, making it 3 ?!

MTT is highly likely.

 

[webvan]

1 TTT and 3 ITT is most unlikely, besides there's no CLM next to that stage.

Just noticed the arrival on the Champs Élysées would be at night (nocturne) !