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Koba80 said:
Genuine question:
Re: Doping talk only in the Clinic etc.
Once it is fact a rider has a conviction are we meant to ignore it happened on this side of the Forum?
Claiming AC as a 9 GT winner seems ridiculous to me in a side which sticks only to facts.We may as well herald Lance and Riis as clean.
Surely this is fact-only, no innuendo. Or is it ok because people like him because he's good and doesn't ride for Sky/not Anglo?
What's the rule? Is it porous for he and certain (he's not the only one) Spaniards?
He's won 7. That's not guesswork. It's fact.
Can we stick to cycling and not fanboyism? Or not?
Where did you get the idea that this side is about facts? Facts has very little to do with anything posted here. 75% of everything posted here is about personal opinion. No matter what you believe, you just have to do your best to not let others' opinions upset you.
Besides, who's really to say what's a fact? For example, LA can claim it's a fact that he won 7 Tours. After all he was there, he was on top of the podium, he still has his maillots jaunes. Of course, you can be of the opinion that "fact" is whatever is in the official record book. You can also think of it this way: Lance won 7 tours. He was then stripped of those titles. Semantics, I know, but if he or someone else says he won 7 Tours is that really untrue? It would be different if he said "I officially hold 7 Tour de France titles"
In other words, you just can't let yourself be bothered by what other people think around here. I've certainly got my opinions on the GT wins(or non-wins)of LA, AC, DiLuca, Menchov, Heras, Landis, Periero, Schleck, etc...and they're not neccessarily consistent.
Re: the rule it's simple - no actual or inferred doping talk. So someone can say AC won 9 GTs but they can't say AC won 9 GTs on go on about contamination, testing, etc...
You can respond with in the record books he has 7 but you can't say AC only won 7 because he's a "___" and was using "___" , etc...
Just easy to draw the line that way. If you want to get into real details take it to the clinic. And yes, all the top riders will have their fanboys. No way around that.