Tour de France 2017 stage 9: Nantua > Chambéry - 181,5 km

[canarydan23]

Re: Tour de France 2017 stage 9: Nantua > Chambéry - 181,5 k

Dan Martin said, "Richie locked up his back wheel".

It wasn't a mechanical or a bike issue, it was a handling error, no two ways about it.

 

[swissfr]

Fuglsang is also a bad descender.

 

[infeXio]

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Fuglsang is also a bad descender.

Ehhhh, no.

 

[Pirazziattacks]

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Australians are all poor bike handlers and all track riders. Most of the country is flat desert so its to be expected.
To win a grand tour you have to master all the aspects of riding.

Hope Richie gets well soon.

:lol:

 

[trucido]

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Australians are all poor bike handlers and all track riders. Most of the country is flat desert so its to be expected.
To win a grand tour you have to master all the aspects of riding.

Hope Richie gets well soon.

:lol:

I guess Cadel Evans must have not existed in his world.

 

[Escarabajo]

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Australians are all poor bike handlers and all track riders. Most of the country is flat desert so its to be expected.
To win a grand tour you have to master all the aspects of riding.

Hope Richie gets well soon.

He didn't crash because he is a poor bike handler

He crashed because his disc brake locked up.....

What he meant is that Porte braked and his wheel locked up and the rest is what we saw. So it is still bike handling issues.

Hope for a speedy recovery anyway.

 

[Frankschleck]

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Fuglsang is also a bad descender.

did you see him in the dauphine?

fulgsang is one of the better descenders going for GC

 

[rick james]

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Fuglsang is also a bad descender.

no he isn't

 

[swissfr]

In the descent of the Mont du Chat, Fuglsang was the worst descender in the group.

 

[cantpedal]

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In the descent of the Mont du Chat, Fuglsang was the worst descender in the group.

Read somewhere yesterday that he had a teammates front wheel that had different tires from his normal wheel. made him unsure and so was more cautious on the decent. sorry cant remember where i read it so no link.

 

[FjPavels]

Re: Tour de France 2017 stage 9: Nantua > Chambéry - 181,5 k

Majka will not start stage 10 because of the crash yesterday.

https://www.bora-hansgrohe.com/en/news/pressemeldungen/keine-brueche-bei-rafal-majka--dennoch-muss-der-bora-E28093-hansgrohe-leader-die-tour-de-france-aufgeben-/11213651

 

[Kazistuta]

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In the descent of the Mont du Chat, Fuglsang was the worst descender in the group.

Read somewhere yesterday that he had a teammates front wheel that had different tires from his normal wheel. made him unsure and so was more cautious on the decent. sorry cant remember where i read it so no link.

After the stage Fuglsang explained to Danish television that the different tire was indeed what made him to a more cautious approach. Normally he wouldn't be descending like that. Plenty of proof of that during the years.

 

[movingtarget]

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Fuglsang is also a bad descender.

No normally he is pretty good. He was spooked by the crash.

 

[carton]

It has to be tough for someone like Porte who doesn't have the same fearlessness as the others to have to go down as fast as they can. With everything riding on it, to boot. I think Quintana is somewhat in the same boat, though he's just a little more comfortable on the bike and in the wet having been going down countless wet hills ever since he was a pre-teen.

But yeah, all of the GC top-10 are very good to superb going down hills. Aru doesn't look quite as comfortable as the other four but he can clearly get the job done and is even unafraid of attacking downhill. I don't think that's where the differences will be made, but I could be wrong.

Heck of a win by Rigo, BTW. Rescuing victory from the jaws of defeat.

 

[Escarabajo]

Another one supporting Froome. This time is Simon Yates:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/simon-yates-calls-arus-attack-a-dirty-move-as-he-builds-on-white-jersey-lead/

Well not only he is the strongest, but has the strongest team but now we will give him the advantage that no other rider has because he has the yellow jersey. Like Bob Roll said if you have a mechanical get a better machine!. Or do like Uran did LOL. Nobody was waiting for him.

 

[lenric]

The political correctness fever is becoming overwhelming.

 

[carton]

Dan Martin: The tour organizers got what they wanted

Christian Prudhomme: [basically] yep

 

[Forever The Best]

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Pantano - Contador double act, LOL

It seemed to me that Nairo was behind Bertie and Crashcaidor's usual antics held him up. But ¯\_(ツ)_/ ¯

Ha ha Contador...

And I was flamed last week when saying that the fans of Froome, Quintana etc. were celebrating crashes of Contador ...

 

[staubsauger]

It's not Prudhomme's fault that Porte rides like an idiot. That sounds harsh and unempathic, but it's true. I ain't got no love for Prudhomme, but here I need to defend him.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Pantano - Contador double act, LOL

It seemed to me that Nairo was behind Bertie and Crashcaidor's usual antics held him up. But ¯\_(ツ)_/ ¯

Ha ha Contador...

And I was flamed last week when saying that the fans of Froome, Quintana etc. were celebrating crashes of Contador ...

Vile people, those that laugh at crashes. Ignore.

 

[DanielSong39]

I understand that Dan Martin is upset but really, it was Richie Porte's fault for knocking him out. Pretty much unavoidable.

 

[carton]

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Vile people, those that laugh at crashes. Ignore.

That looks like a massive misrepresentation of my position. I'm not laughing at the crash, I'm just used to it from Contador. He takes risks other riders find dangerous (particularly in his later years). I wish he didn't, for his sake', the other riders', and the races', which are more interesting with him in it.

But I don't ignore pretty much anyone nonetheless, as I try not to let ocasional bouts of pettiness get in the way of interesting dialogue. I also try not to ascribe ill-will to differences of opinion. YMMV.

 

[Robert5091]

Majka is another casualty of the stage ...

 

[movingtarget]

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It's not Prudhomme's fault that Porte rides like an idiot. That sounds harsh and unempathic, but it's true. I ain't got no love for Prudhomme, but here I need to defend him.

There must be plenty of idiots in the Tour then as there has been plenty of crashes.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Vile people, those that laugh at crashes. Ignore.

That looks like a massive misrepresentation of my position. I'm not laughing at the crash, I'm just used to it from Contador. He takes risks other riders find dangerous (particularly in his later years). I wish he didn't, for his sake', the other riders', and the races', which are more interesting with him in it.

But I don't ignore pretty much anyone nonetheless, as I try not to let ocasional bouts of pettiness get in the way of interesting dialogue. I also try not to ascribe ill-will to differences of opinion. YMMV.

My comment was meant in general and not as a reply to you, but your post with the nickname and all it could be seen as making fun of/ridiculing a rider's misfortune. I'd be interested to know in what way you feel he took too many risks when he crashed yesterday and on any other occasion in recent years, really.