Tour de France 2020 | Stage 11 (Châtelaillon-Plage - Poitiers, 167.5 km)

[Broccolidwarf]

Never said others don't do it. What I mean is that he tends to do it too often.

What other examples can you give?

 

[Breezy1985]

How did I not see this before? This guy has wayyy too much confidence...needs to send some over to Dumoulin.

View: https://youtu.be/QcyElUBIW8Q

He had a whole series where he plays rocky and gladiator and stuff so then they made this special one to coincide with the announcement of his engagement

 

[titan31]

I think if they DQs him it will be the last stage of Sagan on the Tour.

The first DQ was the mistake and they probably just close one eye now to make it draw.

He has zero shot at green now imo barring injury so might as well

 

[Broccolidwarf]

Well, relegation is good... But something needs to be corrected, nobody wants to get hurt because of those dangerous moves

A small push isn't dangerous

 

[Broccolidwarf]

Good DSQ. Anyone that keeps protecting Sagan clearly has no clue about his riding style and his respect for others.

On the other hand, everyone has a clue you are a hater

 

[Andre]

Relegation is correct. The shoulder and head push seemed to slow Wout just a fraction also.

 

[JosephK]

Well, a new race for green. Not expected a week ago. Very good for Bennett.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Sagan sprints more reckless than any sprinter in the peloton, maybe apart from Bouhanni. There are many examples and you asking for one shows that you for some reason have not noticed this behaviour from Sagan in sprints before which is hard for me to understand...

 

[Pricey_sky]

Bennett now something like 68 points clear of Sagan?

Some of the mountain stages to come have the intermediate sprint before the climbs too, so Sagan may not be able to hoover those up away from Bennett.

 

[Ranagazoo]

Sagan's dq means NTT get that 10th place. It was worth their massive effort to close down Jungels and Postleberger after all!

 

[carton]

I mean relegate Sagan, sure, I'm all for cleaning up sprints. But he was doing the same thing Ackerman did two days ago at Tirreno. Wout drifted slightly left, while Gaviria held his line. At those speeds I'd argue what Wout did, while clearly less egregious, was more dangerous, and Sagan's shoulder barge, at the time he did it, was the only alternative to crashing. The really dangerous thing Sagan did was choosing that line to begin with.

So really I would all three of them to be punished with relegation. But for now I'd punish them all with a bit less than that while sprinters adjust to never taking the barrier line and never deviating against the barriers.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Why is he so hated one of the most exciting riders in the peloton?

Well, it's actually nice not to feel alone for once.

 

[Broccolidwarf]

Sagan sprints more reckless than any sprinter in the peloton, maybe apart from Bouhanni. There are many examples and you asking for one shows that you for some reason have not noticed this behaviour from Sagan in sprints before which is hard for me to understand...

I don't think he is particularly "dirty", compared to the other top sprinters, they all push and shove in the last 500...... he's just the one all eyes go to, all the time, because he is Sagan

 

[Breezy1985]

Well, it's actually nice not to feel alone for once.

I love the guy every year he is not challenging Bennett for green

 

[Luthor]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1303724661394505730

View: https://twitter.com/laflammerouge16/status/1303724661394505730

 

[Red Rick]

I called for DSQ of Bennett the other day, and would call for DSQ of Sagan. He used his shoulder but also his head, and he did so against the cleanest sprinter of the peloton.

WvA could easily have closed the door for Sagan but he is too nice. If this doesn't lead to any fine or DSQ, you convert yet another clean sprinter into a dirty one.

And from WvA's interview, he said a four-letter word and Sagain said the same thing back like he didn't feel any remorse.

To be fair to Sagan it's probably one of 7 words of English he knows

 

[Volderke]

What do you mean "still"?

maybe this:

View: https://youtu.be/7pzZwU72qPA?t=3931


watch at 0.25 speed. Follow Sagan and watch the rider in fluo yellow (Vantomme)

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

I’ve never really thought about this before but does relegation also cost the rider points earned at intermediates? I assume not?

 

[Jagartrott]

I mean relegate Sagan, sure, I'm all for cleaning up sprints. But he was doing the same thing Ackerman did two days ago at Tirreno. Wout drifted slightly left, while Gaviria held his line. At those speeds I'd argue what Wout did, while clearly less egregious, was more dangerous, and Sagan's shoulder barge, at the time he did it, was the only alternative to crashing. The really dangerous thing Sagan did was choosing that line to begin with.

So really I would all three of them to be punished with relegation. But for now I'd punish them all with a bit less than that while sprinters adjust to never taking the barrier line and never deviating against the barriers.

Seriously? There's a line there. From the start of his sprint until he gets the stomp, WVA maybe moves 20 cm left and 20 cm right. You can't sprint much more in a straight line than that. Sagan speculated on a gap opening up. The gap was too tight - OK, then that's bad luck and you try another day.

 

[Bonimenier]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1303724661394505730

View: https://twitter.com/laflammerouge16/status/1303724661394505730

Too bad there is 'WOUT' written on his helmet otherwise noone would ever know it was him who flipped the finger.

 

[Bonimenier]

Seriously? There's a line there. From the start of his sprint until he gets the stomp, WVA maybe moves 20 cm left and 20 cm right. You can't sprint much more in a straight line than that. Sagan speculated on a gap opening up. The gap was too tight - OK, then that's bad luck and you try another day.

Exactly, it's hard to find any sprinter who sprints more in a straight line than WvA.

 

[F_Cance]

About time for a Sagan relegation. He was basically begging for it on almost every sprint stage. Just watch the last 5k of yesterdays stage. Headbutting 4 or 5 riders.

 

[Netserk]

I don't think he is particularly "dirty", compared to the other top sprinters, they all push and shove in the last 500...... he's just the one all eyes go to, all the time, because he is Sagan

More like because he is without lead out and has to fight for position. He’s also quite often at the receiving end of shoulders, but that’s the game.

 

[Pricey_sky]

I’ve never really thought about this before but does relegation also cost the rider points earned at intermediates? I assume not?

Looks like it, just seen a table that has Sagan on 175, which he started the day on.

 

[Billie]

Sagan sprints more reckless than any sprinter in the peloton, maybe apart from Bouhanni. There are many examples

give them