Tour de France Tour De France 2021, stage 1 (Brest-Landerneau, 197.8 km)

[JosefK]

I like the stage 1 parcours for the opening stage of this year's TDF. The thing I most hope for is no crashes, especially no crashes that would affect the GC competition. ... I hope I haven't jinxed the whole peloton.

To everyone on the forum, I offer a sincere apology for today's (stage 1) carnage. Quite obviously, the mindless "fan" with the giant swatter sign is but an incidental factor. The real cause of the disaster is the post above. I should have known better.

 

[bajbar]

Jumbo reporting that the rider most affected by the crash was Teunissen who hit his elbow, hip and wrist. He will take some x-rays to check for possible damage. Tony Martin has road rash mostly and the other riders seem to be good (just pain from the hits).

 

[Axel Hangleck]

the neutralization talk needs to stop, only people who can do that are riders themselves...but if they are riding after crashes let them go for it and remove a committee from deciding racing, attrition is part of racing just like anything else

Attritional racing is. However, 'outside interference' certainly isn't. No other sporting event would accept it - and nor should cycling. But it's part of the sport, so nothing will be done.

 

[Carrick-On-Seine]

15 minutes till the Denmark-Wales kick off - sorry cycling, you are only my side piece - bye bye

It's. not looking like the best off days for Geraint Thomas and Luke Rowe

 

[Nick2413]

Attritional racing is. However, 'outside interference' certainly isn't. No other sporting event would accept it - and nor should cycling. But it's part of the sport, so nothing will be done.

I agree outside interference is a very sticky situation where it would be nice to do something, but it’s one of those situations where there’s no great solution and the solution could cause more problems than the issue itself. It’s great the riders are usually sportsmanlike and maybe there can be specific rules made for neutralization, but it opens up a can of worms that will continue to cause a great deal of issues and debate.

 

[Danskebjerge]

how did the fan decide the outcome of the race? all 4 realistic GC contenders finished together (carapaz lost 5 sec) and its not like alaphillippe is a surprising winner either

The spectator crash was not so deciding, it happened at relatively low speed. That the top GC contenders were not involved in the last crash, must be pure coincidence.

 

[The pet snake of Froome]

Holy Jesus

https://twitter.com/x/status/1408808208030916609

View: https://twitter.com/laflammerouge16/status/1408808208030916609?s=20

Aero goals

 

[jmdirt]

Julian will not only win stage 1, he will be the winner of this tour.

You got the first part, now on to the second...

 

[jmdirt]

how did the fan decide the outcome of the race? all 4 realistic GC contenders finished together (carapaz lost 5 sec) and its not like alaphillippe is a surprising winner either

Thee are a lot more dynamics to a GT than how your favorite GC guys did today (stage 1).

 

[jmdirt]

The crash that had by far the greatest influence onthe outcome had nothing to do with any fan. The fan-caused incident in no way "decided the outcome of the race", unless you think Sutterlin was likely to win it.

So if if Roglic's, Pogacar's, Thomas', etc. workers can't do their job now (or do it as well), it won't affect their performance for GC? Then why even bring a team? There are a lot of dynamics to a GT that you are ignoring.

 

[Broccolidwarf]

that rule was abolished at least 5 years ago. You can line up whoever you want

Didn't know that, it was Chris Anker relaying it

 

[Anderis]

Nibali in the front group!!!
I don't know about you guys but this one could be in the bag!

He tested his voodoo skills today. The effects were pretty spectacular but he must do a better job at targetting the most important riders.

 

[jmdirt]

Does French law allow riders/teams to press charges/sue that spectator? I've never sued anyone in my life but if someone comes into my job and knocks me down, I'm pressing charges and suing, especially if I can't do my job for a while after.

 

[Lequack]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1408855799808413696

View: https://twitter.com/cyclingtips/status/1408855799808413696

 

[saunaking]

im kinda dissapointed roglic and pogacar didnt work together when they got the brief gap

Rog played it perfectly

 

[saunaking]

Woods down at 8.49 on PCS. TGH down at over 5 mins. Kuss at over 16 mins with Teunnissen, Martin, Jansen and Hirschi.

Just praying there's a transponder issue with it and Woods was on Boivins bike.

whats it matter?? woods will lose 8mins in stage 5 anyway

 

[titan31]

whats it matter?? woods will lose 8mins in stage 5 anyway

He's a rider who if he's close enough will throw himself at in an attack tbh, so losing him does lessen the GC guys willing to do stuff. Even with the two time trials, I'd still have given him a good shot at top 10 just cos he is a better climber than some of the others and he will try rather than sit behind others.

 

[RedheadDane]

Does French law allow riders/teams to press charges/sue that spectator? I've never sued anyone in my life but if someone comes into my job and knocks me down, I'm pressing charges and suing, especially if I can't do my job for a while after.

ASO are suing her.

ASO vil anlægge sag mod kvinden, der forår... | Feltet.dk

The ASO will sue the woman who caused the major crash

The first stage of this year's Tour de France was marked by two major crashes. The first was caused by a female fan holding a sign on the road, which resulted in many riders hitting the asphalt. ASO will now sue the woman.

Many cycling fans were outraged when a female spectator caused a major crash with 47 km left. Tony Martin drove into the sign, and subsequently looked very injured.

It created great panic in the field where several prominent names were involved. German Jasha Sütterlein (Team DSM) had to retire immediately after the crash.

The big crash now has consequences for the spectator, because ASO, with Christian Prudhomme in the lead, will sue her.

So writes the French media Ouest France.

The problem, however, is that one does not know the identity of her. It is hoped that an investigation can solve this.

 

[saunaking]

the neutralization talk needs to stop, only people who can do that are riders themselves...but if they are riding after crashes let them go for it and remove a committee from deciding racing, attrition is part of racing just like anything else

Exactly. The riders who avoid these crashes have a bit of luck but also strong teams, smart tactics and strength to be at the right place at the right time.
Winners today - Rog, Pog, Alaphillipe, MVDP, VanAert, Thomas, Carapaz
Losers-MAL, Tao, Porte, Woods

Exactly as would be predicted if you were told a crash ruined the GC chances of a bunch of riders today

 

[Koronin]

As far as I'm concerned the race is over and there is no point bothering with anymore of it.

 

[Lequack]

What about Valverde losing 5 minutes, in his form he would've been a good GC contender. Only one for Movistar who didn't lose time is Mas, but his form has been inconsistent lately.
Also Marc Soler has fractured both arms

https://twitter.com/x/status/1408857458563600384

View: https://twitter.com/Movistar_Team/status/1408857458563600384

 

[saunaking]

Who would have thought that the first stage will prove to be so bad for some GC guys?

Basically everybody in every preview

 

[jmdirt]

Exactly. The riders who avoid these crashes have a bit of luck but also strong teams, smart tactics and strength to be at the right place at the right time.
Winners today - Rog, Pog, Alaphillipe, MVDP, VanAert, Thomas, Carapaz
Losers-MAL, Tao, Porte, Woods

Exactly as would be predicted if you were told a crash ruined the GC chances of a bunch of riders today

Wait, "winner" Roglic's team hit the deck (probably because they aren't a strong team who were riding at the front?), and who knows how this will affect them in the days ahead. It could end up being a lose.

 

[Gargamel35]

Wait, "winner" Roglic's team hit the deck (probably because they aren't a strong team who were riding at the front?), and who knows how this will effect them in the days ahead.

Jumbo was in front of the peloton on the right side (where the spectator with a sign was).

 

[Leinster]

Neutralise what exactly? Take off Alaphillipe's lead, give Carapaz his 5 seconds back, give Froome a couple minute? No, none of that would be fair imo.

Yeah, I wrote that before I saw the final results and how spread out the times are. It looked like a big group of 50 or so arrived at the bottom of the last climb together, and I'd be in favour of giving everyone held up by the crash, the same time as the last of that group to cross the line. But it looks like some in that group really sat up well before the line and probably even got overtaken by some who had been held up, so realistically even that wouldn't be feasible.

I just think it's really rough luck for someone like Mike Woods, who's been in flying form ahead of the Tour, and now his GC bid is pretty much toast.