Tour de France Tour de France 2021, Stage 8: Oyonnax – Le Grand-Bornand, 150.8 km

[vladimir]

Has someone cared to work out the time limit? (yes, I'm too lazy do it myself)

37,33 according to PCS. Might come into play today?

 

[woodburn]

Froome '18: 3'00''
Pogačar '21: 3'20''
Landis '06: 5'42''

Thought you meant for just Tour. Froome 2018 would be the obvious comparison to this. Also Andy in 2011.

 

[saganftw]

so if someone wants the podium they still have to work hard to gain 3 minutes on van aert, not counting final TT...there is still fight left for something

 

[SafeBet]

Alaphilippe 19 minutes down.

 

[Eclipse]

GC

Definitely not writing off a Bilbao podium here.

Also really looking forward to seeing what the chancers do when Martin gets in more breaks and starts chipping his way towards the top 5. Recovered to 12th now and you know he'll keep going.

 

[Netserk]

Thought you meant for just Tour. Froome 2018 would be the obvious comparison to this. Also Andy in 2011.

Andy '11: 2'07''.

 

[perico]

You conveniently leave out the fact that they both entered the Vuelta that year and injured and were the top 2 riders in the 3rd week, and Contador beat Froome on both Mtn stages, as well as destroying him in the TT. Contador also dropped him in Cataluña and Tirreno in the mountains. Froome out sprinted Contador in the Dauphine Mtn stage, hardly dropped him.

“The Vélo d'Or (French for "Golden Bicycle") is a cycle racing award, created in 1992 by the French cycling magazine Vélo Magazine. The award is given annually to the rider considered to have performed the best over the year.
Originally, Lance Armstrong won the Vélo d'Or five times, but his results were removed after USADA stripped him of his Tour victories. The Vélo d'Or for these years was not given to the second-ranked cyclist.[1] As of 2016, Alberto Contador holds the record of winning the award four times.”

-wikipedia

2014 winner: Alberto Contador

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Quite impressive that he needed far less distance to make his gap than the other two.

Why tire yourself over a longer period when you can do it with a shorter effort.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Lopez & Nibali arrive at ~21mins

 

[Escarabajo]

GC

Very poor competition if you ask me. Some people were saying that the competition was bad at the Giro. But this one takes the cake!

 

[Escarabajo]

Lopez & Nibali arrive at ~21mins

What happened to Lopez?

 

[Libertine Seguros]

How about Sella's break exploits in the 2008 Giro? He won the Pampeago stage by a million miles - though he wasn't a contender at that point, he certainly became one.

 

[saunaking]

Ineos is a shambles! They have rode this tour worse than any recent Movistar trident
WTF have they been doing???
hopeless

 

[Samu Cuenca]

37,33 according to PCS. Might come into play today?

37'33''

(Well, that's what procyclingstats says, the velofacts calculator has it at 37'32''.)

Thanks. The last times I saw on the live tracker said the last riders were 28 minutes behind, but that was before Pogacar and Teuns finished and they reached the top of Colombière.

 

[SafeBet]

Nibali, Van der Poel and I think Superman almost 22 minutes down.

 

[Escarabajo]

Sepp Kuss, Nibali and Lopez together with VDP

 

[IndurainsTdF1994]

Pogi decides enough is enough, and takes yellow. Uran moves into top 3.

Boom Shaka Laka. Well, almost. (Thanks for nothing Rigo.)

 

[BlueRoads]

Alaphilippe 19 minutes down.

Hopefully he will now take it easy and try to go for another stage.

 

[Mayomaniac]

I think yesterdays stage also had a big impact on today's gaps, a hard 250km long hilly stage will ruin your legs.
MAL crashed at some point during the stage and Nibali took it easy once he was dropped.

 

[Rackham]

I really don't want to s

Very poor competition if you ask me. Some people were saying that the competition was bad at the Giro. But this one takes the cake!

There's not one team to fight him, not one.

At least the Jumbo train last year prevented massive long range attacks (or contained them like in the Pyrenees). Now we see what happens when teams apply the opposite theory, i.e. they get attacked from way out & the gap is insane.

 

[saunaking]

So best 1st week in ages and next 2 will be pointless??

 

[Eeslliw]

Despite that performance, I still don't think Pogacar does that to Roglic, and definitely not if Roglic and Jumbo all come on form. Shame really that Roglic crashed cos I do think they would have had a great battle here.

Outside of that, I'm here for Carapaz trying on every mountain stage and gaining no time. Bloody hilarious.

What are you saying? Roglic would have zero chance against this Pogacar. Zero. There is no one that could follow him today. I mean when did Roglic put 3 minutes on Carapaz in 20kms? Roglic has one of the best 5min watts and this is how he gets his wins. He doesn't casually put minutes on competition.

 

[Tim Cahill]

They should be ok for the time cut because of the size I believe, but Cav will lose points, maybe his rivals are still in that group with him, the situation is unclear.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

I really don't want to s

Very poor competition if you ask me. Some people were saying that the competition was bad at the Giro. But this one takes the cake!

This is to be fair similar to what happened at the 2011 Vuelta, everybody retro-justified it as being a horrible field which helped explain Cobo and Froome's prominence, but you also had Igor Antón who was one of the favourites coming in after crashing out of the lead in 2010, Scarponi who was at that point 2nd in the Giro (later upgraded to winner), Nibali as defending champion, Denis Menchov a two-time former winner of the race (at the time), and Joaquím Rodríguez, a top rider the previous year and in the top positions of the Giro, as well as Carlos Sastre's career swansong, but all of them underperformed massively or were simply not GC condition at that point in their career, leading to a very underwhelming GC mix.

Looking at the results sheet here would suggest this is a very disappointing field, but we've got Roglič, Thomas, Nibali and Geogeghan Hart as GT winners too, Porte, López, and several others, plus the likes of Kruijswijk too who have managed podiums at some point in their past, who don't appear in that top 10, while there's still another GT winner (Carapaz) and a couple of riders with GT podiums (Mas, Urán) in there. It's not as bad as it looks.

 

[Netserk]

How about Sella's break exploits in the 2008 Giro? He won the Pampeago stage by a million miles - though he wasn't a contender at that point, he certainly became one.

Like Landis's ride, it's a bit oranges to apples, as Pogi was in prime position and no one let him go, he won all his time on pure strength. In that sense only Froome is close. Indurain gained 3'00'' in Luxembourg, I can't think of anything resembling Pogi's dominance.