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Tour de France Tour de France 2022: Stage 11 (Albertville – Col du Granon Serre Chevalier, 151.7k)

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No. But Pog and UAE clearly thought injured Rog, 3 minutes behind is too dangerous to let go. I guess best bike rider of the world think highly about Rog.
This was another reason today's stage was so great. Probably only Roglic (and maybe his team) knew how limited he might be, but they disguised it well. Roglic had just one bullet to fire to bait Pogi into following hard attacks, and today was the day. Any other stage from here on, and Pogi will just let Roglic go up the road. But today was a different story. Well played by TJV.
 
I think Vingegaards climbing superiority over Pogacar will be a bit overrated after today. Jumbo's strategy worked perfectly, and you can just see how brutally the Galibier efforts affected the legs on the Granon.

The massive gaps weren't just because Vingegaard was that much stronger. But everyone had been near the max on the Galibier thanks to Jumbo's huge strength and aggression. The fact that Pog had Majka with him on the Granon was irrelevant. The damage to him had already been done.
 
I think Vingegaards climbing superiority over Pogacar will be a bit overrated after today. Jumbo's strategy worked perfectly, and you can just see how brutally the Galibier efforts affected the legs on the Granon.

The massive gaps weren't just because Vingegaard was that much stronger. But everyone had been near the max on the Galibier thanks to Jumbo's huge strength and aggression. The fact that Pog had Majka with him on the Granon was irrelevant. The damage to him had already been done.

But wasn't Pog also aggressive on Galibier? Didn't he drop all the Jumbos at some point? So everyone was near max on Galibier except Vinnie? Thing is Pog overestimated himself did lots of stupid things before the real clash and got shot when he arrived on the battlefield.
 
But wasn't Pog also aggressive on Galibier? Didn't he drop all the Jumbos at some point? So everyone was near max on Galibier except Vinnie? Thing is Pog overestimated himself did lots of stupid things before the real clash and got shot when he arrived on the battlefield.
Yes. Vingegaard was ridiculously easy on Galibier while Pogacar was wasting energy for no reason all day.
 
I personally loved Pogacar f-u-move' when he decided to attack them' after he clearly was annoyed how Jonas and Primoz kept taking turns attacking him, but he could also do the math, even if he succeded in placing them, it was simply not an option this far out to go solo.
Hopefully Jumbo Vista tactic today.. will give more motivation for other teams to go big or go home in the future, as it was one fascinating stage.
reminds me of Saxo bank back in the day, when they tried to put a big day-plan into motion.


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Why limit yourself to the final climb? Froome showed how it's done in the Giro. Pogi too in the Vuelta.
But that simply makes it a different statistic. I've just always found it fascinating how hard it is to break this one minute barrier on a single climb. Froome for example was never able to in his Tour wins despite having ultra dominant performances on mtf 's.

Long range attacks are the more epic ones but they are usually of a very tactical nature (although Foome's finestre solo is a big outlier in that regard) so they often don't show actual dominance. Meanwhile winning by cracking everyone on a single climb is just the purest form of being a dominant climber.
 
In fact he didn't, Quintana was only 59 seconds behind. This means the last time a gc rider attacked on the final climb and won the stage by over a minute in a TdF stage, remains Vincenzo Nibali in Hautacam 2014. In fact I believe that might have been the last time this has happened in any gt.
If winning the stage isn't necessary, Quintana put 1 minute+ into everyone on AdH 2015.
 
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WOW. Just watched the stage. Unbelievable! Well played by Jumbo. Nothing to complain about all around from them. Their relentless attacks softening up Vingo and then goading Pogi into pulling hard, Wout getting in the break and dropping back to help Roglic, just a masterful job that paid off in a huge way. Only wish Roglic wasn’t injured. Not sure he could have stayed with Vingo but generally he should have been ahead of Bardet, Yates, etc. Then again, so should Pogacar…
 
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It was the Ullrich mistake actually. Shutting down LeBlanc. Shutting down Boogerd. Shutting down LeBlanc again. Then, when Pantani went he had no answer to give anymore.

Pogacar needed to pull Vingegaard on Galibier. It was his only option to escape the Jumbo superiority. But that was the situationen Jumbo wanted to create to force Pogacar to put in an effort. Hence why Jumbo denied Kämna the yellow jersey yesterday, to force all the workload on Pogacar and UAE, knowing they can't handle it.)

The mistake was made before when Pogacar shut down Roglic all the time.
 
If anyone knows Roglič, it's Pogačar. Pogačar was afraid to let Roglič go in a break. He was afraid of a heavily injured man who was 3 minutes behind. If that's not a statement of respect and realization how good Roglič can be, i don't know what is.

And JV played it perfectly. Respect to Roglič to go along with it.


JV and Roglic played it perfectly, no doubt about that.
Chapeau for Primoz and his smile while finishing with Kuss.

However, smart riding>>>>respect. You don't isolate yourself 60km to go to follow an INJURED opponent, who is 3 minutes behind you. Especially not this rider has a team mate as strong as you are
Now, if Primoz was healthy, that's a different ball game, but with his injuries, just NO.