Tour de France Tour de France 2023, stage 16: Passy - Combloux, 22.4k (ITT)

[meat puppet]

Speaking of mindgames, if I was Pog, I would deliberately overpace the beginning just to induce panic into Vingo.

A specter is haunting Jumbo, the specter of PDBF.

 

[MrTea1976]

Nothing wrong with bonus seconds. They reward an attack. They're also known about before the race begins and teams should plan for the contest they have entered. Obviously they matter more if you have fewer kms of TT.

 

[Tricycle Rider]

I hope not ...I dont want it to be over till Saturday

As Oscar Wilde said " The suspense is killing me I hope it lasts"

Oh I agree, I don't want for this show to be over yet either. I just meant the battle between Pog and Vingo is so close that I'm actually excited to watch an ITT at all. So, that's what I meant. I think.

 

[Ricco']

Freaking Tour de Wallonie has more ITT kms than Le Tour.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Freaking Tour de Wallonie has more ITT kms than Le Tour.

The women's race also has more ITT kilometres than the men's.

 

[RedheadDane]

Vinjebo hit over 80 KpH on the descend when riding the route earlier. So I'm guessing the TdF riders - who won't need to worry about oncoming traffic - will go faster.

Freaking Tour de Wallonie has more ITT kms than Le Tour.

The women's race also has more ITT kilometres than the men's.

It's almost like different races have different routes.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Dumoulin thinks most GC riders won't change bikes, then again he himself did PdBF without a bike change in 2020 so interpret that as you will.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Matteo Jorgenson DNS

 

[dobrien]

Yeah, this could be epic; coming after Roglic's Giro miracle it could restore my faith in ITTs...I really have no idea who will win. On paper if Jonas is feeling good he could take 30 seconds or more, purely on w/kg. That said, when Pog goes thermonuclear he's otherworldly and it could be 30 seconds in his favor...

Absolutely. Given the nature of our sport it's not inconceivable we could never see these two lined up like this ever again; two of the best GT talents in the history of the sport, as even in strength (apparently) as we could hope to see them, both their teams about as even as it gets two weeks into a very hard race, and all to play for. It's a moment in time for sure.

 

[Trofonios]

Wout himself doesn't think he can win. Seems also like Kuss will take it easy.

"Normally the course is too difficult for him, Wout himself thinks that it will go for the day victory between Jonas and Pogacar, but for Wout it is an important day for what follows after the Tour," he concludes. Meanwhile, likely the rest of the team will take it more easily in order to set up a move on stage 17.

"I will not be shocked if we lose a few seconds" - Zeeman believes Tadej Pogacar has the upper hand ahead of decisive time-trial

The time-trial in this Tour de France is very hard, this yea

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[Krzysztof_O]

Speaking of mindgames, if I was Pog, I would deliberately overpace the beginning just to induce panic into Vingo.

A specter is haunting Jumbo, the specter of PDBF.

He can overpace a bit but not more. The objective should always be to get as good time as possible and he has to deliver big watts on the last climb.
BTW, this image never gets boring

 

[Volderke]

No way Wout competes with Pog and JV on a route like this. Actually, surely no one finishes this within a minute of those two.

Tadej to win and get maillot jaune, Vingegaard 15-20s behind him. So roles reversed with basically the same, incredibly small gap before the queen stage. A.Yates 3rd on a stage and 3rd in GC.

While this route is not favouring WvA, he can still be within half a minute of those two, if he really goes for it.

Besides those 3 riders, there must be someone who is capable of finishing within a minute, no? If not, it would be a bit pathetic (maybe that's the reality of this Tour though).

Thinking about A. Yates (but will he go full?), Pidcock, Bilbao, Skjelmose, ...?

 

[Red Rick]

Dumoulin thinks most GC riders won't change bikes, then again he himself did PdBF without a bike change in 2020 so interpret that as you will.

We all wanted Dumo to conquer Lussarion his TT bike

 

[Tim Cahill]

Rodriguez hasn't been able to do proper tt-position practice this season after a fractured collarbone apparently, so I expect Yates to put a bit of time into him.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Imagine Pog & Vinge are separated only by a few seconds after the TT and they stay this way until the final weekend...

 

[RedheadDane]

Thinking about A. Yates (but will he go full?), Pidcock, Bilbao, Skjelmose, ...?

Skjelmose isn't going full. He doesn't want to go full to maybe get a top-10.

 

[Red Rick]

Not gonna lie, the Asian ITT champs kit looks *** cool

 

[DNP-Old]

Asian Champion jersey of Federov is fire.

 

[Boehmand]

If Moerkoev went any slower he would be going backwards

 

[Tim Cahill]

Danish favourite Michel Moeøerkoeøv taking it easy, saving his energy for an attack on the champs no doubt.

 

[Red Rick]

Live gradients never fail to not make sense

 

[DNP-Old]

Welsford did a Delgado and arrived too late.

 

[DNP-Old]

Edmondson also did a Delgado and arrived too late, lmao.

 

[Salvarani]

Both DSM-riders missed their start.

 

[DNP-Old]

And Degenkolb crashed in the first corner. DSM collectively drunk, lmaoooo.