Tour de France Tour de France 2023, stage 16: Passy - Combloux, 22.4k (ITT)

[Bavarianrider]

Do you also want to ban it when a rider has had a mechanical during a TT? If not, how do you prove whether someone had a mechanical or not?

Pushing a rider should obvioulsy be banned in all situations. It`s absolutely pointless.

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

I don't get why you get worked up about pushing, they should ban bike computers so pacing yourself is a skill!

 

[Boehmand]

I think the mechanic's push assist should not be allowed when switching the bike during the TT... change my mind!

I don't really get why the rule should be different in a TT than a RR?

 

[RobertCrawley]

Inceed, absolute joke. But what do you expect in the year 2023?

It's always been that way, AFAIK.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

yes... ban push during the TT no matter the cause. easy to control that way

So that a mechanical becomes even more impactful in the discipline where every second counts? How long do you think it would take for someone to lose a GC victory because of a mechanical under those rules?

 

[Bavarianrider]

It's always been that way.

Bike changes in TT were A LOT more uncommon back in the day.

 

[dazaau]

Everyone has the same choices and trade offs regarding a bike change and it gives us something to talk about. What's the problem?

 

[QueenStagiaire]

yes... ban push during the TT no matter the cause. easy to control that way

Congratulations on winning the Giro d‘Italia, Geraint Thomas. It‘s sad that Primoz Roglic had to push his bike until he could remount in a flatter section, but those are the rules.

 

[glassmoon]

I don't really get why the rule should be different in a TT than a RR?

why not... there are plenty of TT specific rules

 

[glassmoon]

Congratulations on winning the Giro d‘Italia, Geraint Thomas. It‘s sad that Primoz Roglic had to push his bike until he could remount in a flatter section, but those are the rules.

*** happens... still same rules for everyone.

 

[Red Rick]

I see Bavarianrider appeareth at prophecized moment

 

[Danskebjerge]

Do you also want to ban it when a rider has had a mechanical during a TT? If not, how do you prove whether someone had a mechanical or not?

If there is a ban, it would be suspicious to bring different kind of bikes for a TT.

 

[Salvarani]

Will Blythe be on the moto all week?

Can a little window pop-up before he comes in, to alert, so you have the option to mute quickly before he starts speaking?

 

[Boehmand]

Bike changes in TT were A LOT more uncommon back in the day.

I'd think there was far less speed difference between a road bike and a TT bike back in the day?

 

[hayneplane]

Does anyone know the likely cutoff as I would expect Devenyns time to be bettered by at least 3 minutes by the top GC duo even at a conservative estimate. A few early starters could be in trouble

 

[bizzmane89]

I think the next area for marginal gains will an automatic release for the bikes on the car. Riders has a mechanical and the driver will just release the bike which will roll right over the hood in the hands of the rider. The car grill will open up and we see an aircraft turbine immediately accelerating the rider to 80mph, spectators will lose their hats and maybe some of their body parts. Just a thought, i did not find a rule against these car adaptions.

 

[RobertCrawley]

I thought AG2R would be really unhappy with Benoit Cosnefroy for slamming a drink and dancing with fans at the top of the Joux Plane. Instead, they extended his contract.

 

[Danskebjerge]

In other words, the ban could be just not allowing different kind of bikes.

 

[Boehmand]

why not... there are plenty of TT specific rules

"Why not" is not really an argument for a change dude

 

[Devil's Elbow]

I swear you could have an AI write @Bavarianrider 's posts and you couldn't tell the difference. All you need to make sure it does is complain about TT lengths, say everything was better in the past and occasionally blame kids these days for both.

 

[glassmoon]

Everyone has the same choices and trade offs regarding a bike change and it gives us something to talk about. What's the problem?

no problem with a bike change, just with those pushes. change your bike how many times you want just without the stupid pushes from mechanic. that's all

 

[QueenStagiaire]

I think the next area for marginal gains will an automatic release for the bikes on the car. Riders has a mechanical and the driver will just release the bike which will roll right over the hood in the hands of the rider. The car grill will open up and we see an aircraft turbine immediately accelerating the rider to 80mph, spectators will lose their hats and maybe some of their body parts. Just a thought, i did not find a rule against these car adaptions.

There‘s no rule against mutilating spectators (and the rider who would also be injured)?

 

[Bavarianrider]

In other words, the ban could be just not allowing different kind of bikes.

True, that would be the best solution. Either alllow road bikes or TT bikes.
Those bike changes look beyond ridicilous.

 

[dazaau]

no problem with a bike change, just with those pushes. change your bike how many times you want just without the stupid pushes from mechanic. that's all

perhaps UAE have recruited Usain Bolt as a mechanic for the team #marginalgainsandbigbudgets

 

[RobertCrawley]

no problem with a bike change, just with those pushes. change your bike how many times you want just without the stupid pushes from mechanic. that's all

Even with the push, riders lose a few seconds in the exchange. There's a little penalty.