Tour de France Tour de France 2023, stage 16: Passy - Combloux, 22.4k (ITT)

[Danskebjerge]

Inceed, absolute joke. But what do you expect in the year 2023?

I expect bans like there is plenty of bans already.

 

[rokovski]

yes... ban pushes during the TT no matter the cause. easy to control that way

UAE should get Usain Bolt to make a push after bike change. 😆

 

[Red Rick]

Will the 2 big boys go sub 10 minutes pn the first split?

 

[Salvarani]

Will the 2 big boys go sub 10 minutes pn the first split?

Delcerq and Frison already finished.

 

[rokovski]

perhaps UAE have recruited Usain Bolt as a mechanic for the team #marginalgainsandbigbudgets

You were faster

 

[Bavarianrider]

I expect bans like there is plenty of bans already.

Bans? You monster. That would hurt somenone`s feelings.

 

[Boehmand]

Soerensen saying he thinks UAE is playing mindgames with the bike changes, making Jumbo think Pogacar will change too - but he will not - because the changes look rather unfocused and uncoordinated.

 

[Danskebjerge]

perhaps UAE have recruited Usain Bolt as a mechanic for the team #marginalgainsandbigbudgets

It's funny, but the truth is not far from it.

 

[RobertCrawley]

Sad to hear that Matteo Jorgenson abandoned.

 

[glassmoon]

Even with the push, riders lose a few seconds in the exchange. There's a little penalty.

too little imho... seeing mech pushing a rider for 15-20 meters during the TT just grinds my gears i guess

 

[Salvarani]

Soerensen saying he thinks UAE is playing mindgames with the bike changes, making Jumbo think Pogacar will change too - but he will not - because the changes look rather unfocused and uncoordinated.

There is no point in making a quick bike change for Bjerg...

 

[Boehmand]

Cavagna is the first rider who appears to really go for it today, we may get the first idea of a "real" time when he crosses the finish.

 

[RobertCrawley]

Soerensen saying he thinks UAE is playing mindgames with the bike changes, making Jumbo think Pogacar will change too - but he will not - because the changes look rather unfocused and uncoordinated.

Sounds too squirrely for a professional team to think these kind of mind games mean anything. Jumbo and Jonas have had their race plan locked in for months. They are going to do what they do.

 

[Valv.Piti]

I feel absolutely sick. 3 hours, 158 average bpm.

Well, time to call it, 4 hours on the sofa. VAMOS POG

 

[Boehmand]

There is no point in making a quick bike change for Bjerg...

But there is a point to doing it fast, to train the mechanics of the change.

 

[Boehmand]

Sounds too squirrely for a professional team to think these kind of mind games mean anything. Jumbo and Jonas have had their race plan locked in for months. They are going to do what they do.

Agreed, but any little thing helps when the Tour is balancing on a 10 second gap.

He may of course be wrong but I wouldn't put it past UAE, especially looking how weirdly uncoordinated their bike changes look.

 

[MrTea1976]

Why does a bike change matter? It's bike racing. Ride bike fastest, get smallest time, win. They aren't switching out to motorbikes.

 

[Trofonios]

Cavagna is the first rider who appears to really go for it today, we may get the first idea of a "real" time when he crosses the finish.

Looks like Mads also is going for it. Took a solid lead at the 2nd timecheck

 

[Salvarani]

But there is a point to doing it fast, to train the mechanics of the change.

Exactly, and that is what they are doing. The mechanics of the whole change.

If they gonna do it later.... they will just do it faster, which they likely has practiced.

 

[RobertCrawley]

Sam Bewley said that Pogi's TT bike is 5 pounds/2.2 kilograms heavier than his road bike. That's a lot.

 

[Boehmand]

Pedersen looks to be riding full too, like Cavagna, he is not taking it slow up the climb.

 

[Salvarani]

Rain!

 

[Didinho]

Sam Bewley said that Pogi's TT bike is 5 pounds/2.2 kilograms heavier than his road bike. That's a lot.

He also did a bike change in the nationals and was flying in his first race back.

 

[RobertCrawley]

Rain!

How many times have we seen riders slip on the white paint stripes on the road in the TT when it's wet or raining.

 

[Boehmand]

Why does a bike change matter? It's bike racing. Ride bike fastest, get smallest time, win. They aren't switching out to motorbikes.

Because a TT bike is far heavier and stiffer so worse on gradients.

How much difference it makes is anybody's guess, but I saw a Danish TT specialist say on Twitter earlier, that he thought you would gain 15 seconds by changing bikes, so if you can perform the bike change faster than that you gain time.

Obviously he is basing this off Veloviewer without having seen the route physically.