Tour de France Tour de France 2023, stage 17: Saint-Gervais Mont Blanc - Courchevel, 165.7k

[RedheadDane]

Poor Petit... he's got so much road rash on his leg, he can't get stitches on his bigger wound.
And his back hurts too.

 

[Gigs_98]

A part of me thinks Pogacar should attack on this climb and see what happens. If Vingegaard wants to battle he might as well do it here. If Vingegaard wants to rely on his team this might be the only chance to get a gap.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Pogačar following Van der Poel as if this was Flanders.

 

[ManicJack]

A. Yates at the back drenching himself with water. Good day/ bad day for him? Pogacar needs him on the last climb.

 

[GroupDK]

Did not look like an attacker from that passing camerashot, but it's Pogacar, so anything under the sun can happen.

 

[Peyroteo94]

A part of me thinks Pogacar should attack on this climb and see what happens. If Vingegaard wants to battle he might as well do it here. If Vingegaard wants to rely on his team this might be the only chance to get a gap.

He doesn't have it. His mindset is dead after yesterday, never in his mind he thought he would lose more than a minute and half

 

[RobertCrawley]

A part of me thinks Pogacar should attack on this climb and see what happens. If Vingegaard wants to battle he might as well do it here. If Vingegaard wants to rely on his team this might be the only chance to get a gap.

I think 12 kilometers from the top of la Loze is a launching point for Pogi. There's a little downhill there. Then it goes for 7 hard Ks and then really gets steep for the final 5 Ks. If Jonas has a bad day, Pogi could gain huge chunks of time.

 

[Sciatic]

I think 12 kilometers from the top of la Loze is a launching point for Pogi. There's a little downhill there. Then it goes for 7 hard Ks and then really gets steep for the final 5 Ks. If Jonas has a bad day, Pogi could gain huge chunks of time.

And vice versa.

 

[Peter von]

I think 12 kilometers from the top of la Loze is a launching point for Pogi. There's a little downhill there. Then it goes for 7 hard Ks and then really gets steep for the final 5 Ks. If Jonas has a bad day, Pogi could gain huge chunks of time.

sounds about right, Jumbo also doing UAE's work for them atm. So might as well give it a go.

 

[RobertCrawley]

And vice versa.

Yes, absolutely. And vice versa.

 

[ManicJack]

How did Pogacar crash earlier? Was it bad?

 

[RobertCrawley]

How did Pogacar crash earlier? Was it bad?

Inattention, which is very unusual for Pogi. Touched a wheel and went down. A bloody knee and elbow. He seems to be riding ok, though.

 

[Melo]

Pogacar had his soul crushed yesterday, he's going to lose time again today, I hope I'm wrong and maybe stage 20 will still be worthy.

 

[Rob5091]

How did Pogacar crash earlier? Was it bad?

See
https://www.eurosport.com/cycling/t...7-quickly-back-on-bike_vid1954644/video.shtml

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Pogačar following Van der Poel as if this was Flanders.

Did you watch Flanders?

 

[glassmoon]

why not let them 5 mins and make ineos/bora do the work?

 

[Rob5091]

35C it is hot today.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Checked it out. He needs to borrow Armstrong's format: get good microphones, a desk, a sidekick, and some guests.

Horner by himself is too much Horner.

Just like you can't have too much cowbell, there's no such thing as "too much Horner".

 

[Landeirovic]

Uae still in 8

 

[RedheadDane]

Did you watch Flanders?

2022 Flanders.

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

why not let them 5 mins and make ineos/bora do the work?

Because that wouldn't burn their domestiques and than later in the stage would be less fun.

 

[Finn84]

Does Vingegaard now need to win at Loze to claim the lead of KOM?

 

[rallybanana]

Does Vingegaard now need to win at Loze to claim the lead of KOM?

yes. 40 points for 1st, 30 for 2nd. I think he's now 31 points behind

 

[ManicJack]

Does Vingegaard now need to win at Loze to claim the lead of KOM?

Yes, if he wants it today

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Does Vingegaard now need to win at Loze to claim the lead of KOM?

Yes. Assuming Ciccone takes nothing and the big 2 are the first 2, either Vingegaard will lead Ciccone by 9 and Pogacar by 18, or Pogacar will lead Ciccone by 1 and Vingegaard by 2.