Tour de France Tour de France 2023, stage 3: Amorebieta-Etxano - Bayonne/Baiona, 193.5k

[will-10]

Good from Bauhaus. Wasn't expecting him to get a 2nd here

might be first yet

 

[Red Rick]

Van Aert would have had the inside of the corner if he didn't sprint backwards.

 

[Izzyeviel]

i would love to see a heart rate monitor on Carlton.

 

[Jagartrott]

Don't think Philipsen did 'enough' to be relegated, but why do organizers keep thinking it's a good idea to have curves in a bunch sprint finish?

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Why not just do a sprint without a corner at 100m?

 

[RobertCrawley]

Don't think Philipsen should be DQd, but if Van Aert doesn't brake he would have flown into the barriers.

Yep. Not cool. But they are letting it go.

 

[Rackham]

i would love to see a heart rate monitor on Carlton.

Higher than Froome on the Ventoux 2013, that's for sure.

 

[Scarponi]

Why not just do a sprint without a corner at 100m?

How much better would it have been with a 400m straight. How could anyone get around to win?

 

[theyoungest]

Van Aert tries to pass Philipsen on the wrong side, it's 100% his own fault and of course Philipsen closes the door on him. Luckily we won't get half of Belgium in a tizzy this time as it's still a Belgian who won.

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

Looking at it again, Philipsen held close to the white line, through the turn. He didn't do anything wrong, it was the finish in a curve that caused that.

 

[woodburn]

Philipsen held his line, just the curve makes it’s tricky.

The barriers also didn't seem uniform through that curve so it looked tight and then there was some space opening up. Either way, don't think Van Aert would have won and it didn't seem he was complaining at all.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Why not just do a sprint without a corner at 100m?

Straighter barriers would also have helped, they came inside by like 20-30 centimetres where Van Aert stopped pedaling.

 

[postmanhat]

Must admit Bauhaus becoming this good completely passed me by?

 

[Boehmand]

I think Philipsen left enough room on the inside for Van Aert, but that Van Art had to stop pedalling because of spectators holding arms out in front of his face.

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

I don't understand the rules well enough to say, but Philipsen was clearly in the middle of the road when MvdP dropped, then he cut way right, then following the curve of the road when WVA sat up, then after WVA sat up, he veered farther right so that if Wout hadn't sat up, he might have been in trouble there. Finished right against the barriers after starting slightly left of center. I like Philipsen and would like to see him keep it, but he clearly deviated. How does the curve impact it? Do they have to hold their line relative to barrers or can they cut across to take shorter path?

 

[Oldermanish]

Uhhhh, that is debatable. Don't think Philipsen was really in the wrong because these curve finishes are just terrible for holding your line but Wout was definitely affected.

The road curved right after curving left; Philipsen maintained a reasonable gap and Wout was not alongside him at that point. No foul and Wout wasn't fast enough anyway.
He should pound his handlebars in a private place and move on as this gets tiresome.
Jasper won.

 

[gerundium]

I saw an enormously motivated Cavendish in this sprint. His position in the run in together with Cees was really good, but there was a mistake in the corner in the last km. If he shows this determination in all the upcoming sprints he will get the chance and break the record i am sure of it.

 

[Scarponi]

Ewan was near 10-14th wheel and came third

 

[Casper96]

Certainly didn't give Wout a lane between him and the barrier. But I guess it wasn't egregious?

 

[RobertCrawley]

Van Aert tries to pass Philipsen on the wrong side, it's 100% his own fault and of course Philipsen closes the door on him. Luckily we won't get half of Belgium in a tizzy this time as it's still a Belgian who won.

Why was it the wrong side? He wanted the shortest distance through the corner.

 

[Izzyeviel]

Philipsen held his line, just the curve makes it’s tricky.

Did he? He went from alongside a rider to his right to being right next to the barrier.

 

[Poursuivant]

Don't think Philipsen did 'enough' to be relegated, but why do organizers keep thinking it's a good idea to have curves in a bunch sprint finish?

Asking for trouble

 

[Trofonios]

Relegation or not, Alpecin-Deceuninck did a perfect leadout for Jasper.

 

[JosefK]

Ooh. On the helicopter shot, it looks like maybe Wout did get cut off. Even if there wasn't a foul, he had to hold up to keep from getting crunched.

 

[DNP-Old]

To relegate Philipsen would mean to admit their own fault. Therefore, he will not be relegated.