Tour de France Tour de France 2023, stage 3: Amorebieta-Etxano - Bayonne/Baiona, 193.5k

[theyoungest]

Why was it the wrong side? He wanted the shortest distance through the corner.

Yeah, but of course Philipsen is going to do the same. If you want to pass him take the outer lane. It's just obvious.

 

[Oldermanish]

I don't understand the rules well enough to say, but Philipsen was clearly in the middle of the road when MvdP dropped, then he cut way right, then following the curve of the road when WVA sat up, then after WVA sat up, he veered farther right so that if Wout hadn't sat up, he might have been in trouble there. Finished right against the barriers after starting slightly left of center. I like Philipsen and would like to see him keep it, but he clearly deviated. How does the curve impact it? Do they have to hold their line relative to barrers or can they cut across to take shorter path?

You can hold a direct line to the finish irrespective of the road curve unless a rider is alongside you and equal to your position. Jasper's bottom bracket ahead of Wout's handlebars before Wout tried to continue makes it a done deal. Jasper made no sudden moves and he's not obligated to provide an inside lane for someone behind him.

 

[Ricco']

Did he? He went from alongside a rider to his right to being right next to the barrier.

After WVA stopped sprinting. Riders can change lane if they don't get in the way. And Philipsen always left room, the barriers didn't follow the berm markings.

 

[Tim Cahill]

VDP's leadout was exceptional again, 30-40 more metres and Bauhaus wins I think

 

[RobertCrawley]

Did he? He went from alongside a rider to his right to being right next to the barrier.

Yeah, I don't like that he is willing to win like that. Doesn't seem sporting.

 

[Samamba]

Don't forget that Ewan should also be relegated based on Skjemose and Bettiol being relegated yesterday, and probably also 20 others in that sprint.

Would be BS if anyone gets relegated here. These are sprints, impossible to just sprint straight for everyone.

 

[Boehmand]

It also looks like the barrier had been pushed into the road slightly on that corner, which is probably hard to account for at that speed.

 

[VorstM]

Philipsen took the fastest line to the finish, which was obviously not iso-distanced to the inner curve but cuts it a bit.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Yates being interviewed first means a farcical relegation is likely incoming. The issue is finishing in a curve first, the barriers not being straight second, and nothing else.

 

[frisenfruitig]

That curve and those terrible barriers... Just why? Philipsen doesn't deserve to get dq'ed for this imo, it's just the finish that was terribly set up. Is there ever going to be a time when ASO aren't a bunch of total amateurs, ffs.

 

[DNP-Old]

You know what, purely for the reaction of Renaat and Roodhooft I hope Philipsen gets relegated.

 

[Samamba]

If Philipsen (or anyone else) gets relegated here there honestly should be a huge amount of complains. This is ridiculous. If you put a curve in a sprint a sprinter will take the fastest way to the finish line.

 

[postmanhat]

Relegation or not, Alpecin-Deceuninck did a perfect leadout for Jasper.

Yes, no one's getting round Phillipsen with MVDP setting him up. Impossible to have a better leadout man.

 

[Izzyeviel]

its lane, not line. Keep to your lane, not follow your line.

 

[Didinho]

Why don't they use something like these big hard barriers from the classics? I've felt them on the Worlds in Leuven and some semi classics, you can't push them inwards as supporters. Now there was a bump in it where Wout was going. Breaked just in time for disaster crash.

 

[Trofonios]

Cav 6th, this will give him confidence. He looked really happy afterwards. Win 35 incoming!

 

[frisenfruitig]

You know what, purely for the reaction of Renaat and Roodhooft I hope Philipsen gets relegated.

What did Renaat say? He was totally right about that finish as far as I can tell.

 

[Tricycle Rider]

Jasper anxiously awaiting his fate

 

[Danskebjerge]

If Philipsen (or anyone else) gets relegated here there honestly should be a huge amount of complains. This is ridiculous. If you put a curve in a sprint a sprinter will take the fastest way to the finish line.

It still has to depend on whether there is another rider on the inside.

 

[Rob5091]

Messy parcours gives messy finishes - regardless Philipsen quickest, Bahrain were always there in the middle and Ewan will be half happy, I suppose. Glad no nasty crashes.

 

[ManicJack]

Phillipsen moved to the right from the moment the sprint was opened up. Tough call.

 

[Danskebjerge]

If the jury could relegate Skjelmose yesterday, there shouldn't be much doubt about relegating Philipsen today.

 

[Oldermanish]

That curve and those terrible barriers... Just why? Philipsen doesn't deserve to get dq'ed for this imo, it's just the finish that was terribly set up. Is there ever going to be a time when ASO aren't a bunch of total amateurs, ffs.

After two days of "activists" or jerks throwing tacks on the road, changing routes due to new road furniture (according to NBC); I'd think a finish like this would be the least of ASO's worries. Fans hanging over a blind curve was a huge risk, too.

 

[Unterlenkerfahrend]

Haha Pogacar probably itching there to troll Wout but keeps it professional.

This suspense is giving me VAR vibes from football when they can't celebrate sometimes for 5 minutes.

 

[Samamba]

If the jury could relegate Skjelmose yesterday, there shouldn't be much doubt about relegating Philipsen today.

Then they should also relegate Ewan and that would also mean that you simply cant move past riders anymore lmao.