Tour de France Tour de France 2023, stage 7: Mont-de-Marsan - Bordeaux, 169.9k

[Boehmand]

From 20 min ago:
"So Cavendish should be relegated, too, for moving from the right barrier almost to the middle of the road when Philipsen passed him?"

I replied to that in the very post you seemed to find obfuscating

 

[ManicJack]

This is a terribly written rule. What exactly consists of "launching"?

Is that seriously the entirety of the written rule?

 

[kingjr]

I replied to that in the very post you seemed to find obfuscating

Why didn't you just say "yes" in your initial reply? Or am I wrong to assume that's your answer?

 

[proffate]

Is that seriously the entirety of the written rule?

Unless you can find another rule in any of these docs https://www.uci.org/regulations/3MyLDDrwJCJJ0BGGOFzOat#part-ii-road-races

Clearly they're optimizing for longest web forum argument threads by making the rules as hazy as possible (but perfectly clear to anyone who's actually pinned a number on).

 

[SHAD0W93]

This. They build a train for you when you can finish it off.

Too be fair, there have been many sprinters with a train that don’t finish it off.

 

[ManicJack]

(but perfectly clear to anyone who's actually pinned a number on).

I'm pretty sure that there aren't too many of us around here. Seems like everyone thinks racing is in slow motion.

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

Did you notice how Philipsen didn't say the same about Girmay?

Do you know why they hate eachother so much? They both rode G-W and I never even saw them chatting there.

I don't, but clearly they do not like him contesting sprints, for sure.

 

[EddyMazzoleni]

Philpsen pushed Girmay
Cav deviated to slow Philipsen
Girmay shouldered Gronewegen 1.2 k from the line and almost caused a mass crash.
So Mozzato FTW.

On a more serious note, the Tour should keep an eye on the way the barriers are positioned, i've seen some bits sticking out dangerously in the sprint stages so far

 

[RobertCrawley]

Jonas: ""It has been quite an easy stage, with only one man going in the breakaway. It has been a bit long, but I’m happy with the heat. I like the heat. In last year’s stages, my best stages were the warmest ones. I am feeling better after every stage and my morale is quite high."

 

[Boehmand]

Why didn't you just say "yes" in your initial reply? Or am I wrong to assume that's your answer?

Jesus, you appear to be looking for an argument.

I'm not up for that, find someone else

 

[kingjr]

I don't, but clearly they do not like him contesting sprints, for sure.

Not sure if you're serious, but if so... if anyone ever wonders why fake news is such a huge phenomenon, they needn't look further than this post. That is exactly the fertile ground on which it flourishes.

 

[tobydawq]

This generation of sprinters just isn't that great. IMO there is nobody on the level of prime Cipollini, Petacchi, Cavendish, Greipel or Kittel here when it comes to flat sprints, and that includes Philipsen himself.

How can that possibly be assessed? I might as well say that the reason Petacchi, Cipollini, Cavendish, Greipel and Kittel were that great was because they just didn't have particularly good opposition.

 

[Potomac]

only 15 pages for todays thread

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

sure, let's relegate everyone until the rider you like wins

...okay, I'm here for that.

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

Not sure if you're serious, but if so... if anyone ever wonders why fake news is such a huge phenomenon, they needn't look further than this post. That is exactly the fertile ground on which it flourishes.

AWESOME!!! I am a world wide phenomenon!!!

Thanks bro!!

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

Jesus, you appear to be looking for an argument.

I'm not up for that, find someone else

...and just one post down, he tries to then push me into the barriers. Guy is a regular Philipsen.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Pogacar should be related from il lombardia 2021 for blocking fausto masnada in bergamo alta

 

[AlfaLum]

First time it was more than fair the Philipsen got the benefit of the doubt.

With Jakobsens crash we don’t really have good images. Allthough statements from people inside the peloton are saying something benefit of the doubt is again deserved.

Today Philipsens sprint was not fair at all. Should have been regelated. Even more so if you compare it with the relegations they have made before.

 

[SHAD0W93]

This generation of sprinters just isn't that great. IMO there is nobody on the level of prime Cipollini, Petacchi, Cavendish, Greipel or Kittel here when it comes to flat sprints, and that includes Philipsen himself.

Philipsen is slowly showing to be the most dominate so far versus the others rocketing to the top. Since 2020 GT stage wins;
Philipsen 8, 5 TdF, 3 VaE
Demare 7, all GdI, 2 PC GdI
Cavendish 6, 4 TdF, 2 GdI, 1PC GdI
Bennett 5, 2 TdF, 3 VaE, 1 PC TdF
Ewan 4, 2 TdF, 2 GdI
Jakobsen 4, 1 TdF, 3 VaE, 1 PC VaE
Ackermann 3, 1 GdI, 2 VaE, 1 PC GdI
Merlier 2, 1 TdF, 1 GdI
Groenewegen 1, TdF
Gaviria 0
Viviani 0


Philipsen has the most wins of who is considered the best or the tier just below and most at TdF. While able to add to his total at the end of the race.

 

[VorstM]

Especially since he shoulda been DQd the last time

No.

 

[SHAD0W93]

I wonder what people would say if JtD moved Cav into the barriers and not Bini.

Philipsen would have a one way ticket to Suplex City courtesy of The Beast Brock Lesnar.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

How can that possibly be assessed? I might as well say that the reason Petacchi, Cipollini, Cavendish, Greipel and Kittel were that great was because they just didn't have particularly good opposition.

Cavendish still being able to match all of them bar Philipsen at 38 despite having a subpar leadout is a decent pointer...

 

[Panda Claws]

Philipsen is slowly showing to be the most dominate so far versus the others rocketing to the top. Since 2020 GT stage wins;
Philipsen 8, 5 TdF, 3 VaE
Demare 7, all GdI, 2 PC GdI
Cavendish 6, 4 TdF, 2 GdI, 1PC GdI
Bennett 5, 2 TdF, 3 VaE, 1 PC TdF
Ewan 4, 2 TdF, 2 GdI
Jakobsen 4, 1 TdF, 3 VaE, 1 PC VaE
Ackermann 3, 1 GdI, 2 VaE, 1 PC GdI
Merlier 2, 1 TdF, 1 GdI
Groenewegen 1, TdF
Gaviria 0
Viviani 0


Philipsen has the most wins of who is considered the best or the tier just below and most at TdF. While able to add to his total at the end of the race.

I've literally never seen someone write GdI and VaE like this before. I was so confused.

 

[Boehmand]

Cavendish saying after the stage, he had a gear issues in the sprint, with his gear popping into a lighter gear when he stood up, twice.

 

[Rackham]

You act as if sprinters never touch each other.

The race commissaires should invite plaintiffs to a "Show me on the doll where the sprinter touched you" stage debriefing.

In other news, I still reckon Jasper Philipsen... looks like Elon Musk. It's uncanny.