Tour de France Tour de France 2024: Stage 14: Pau - Saint-Lary-Soulan Pla d’Adet 151.9km

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Why do you say that?

He has no hair.

 

[RobertCrawley]

Read the Pogacar thread, starting with January this year

What's the main takeaway. I thought Tadej and San Millan parted amicably.

 

[scribers]

He has no hair.

Gaddamn if I could I would BAN YOU RIGHT NOW, for slaying me today

 

[scribers]

What's the main takeaway. I thought Tadej and San Millan parted amicably.

Mou told us Pogi would have won everything since before this year if it wasn't for the bald fraud

 

[RobertCrawley]

Mou told us Pogi would have won everything since before this year if it wasn't for the bald fraud

Well, if he said it, it must be true.

 

[ppanther92]

What's the main takeaway. I thought Tadej and San Millan parted amicably.

Probably. But there was a user, @mou, that emerged, calling Millan "bald fraud". And since Pogacar is not held back anymore by the bald fraud, and with Sola now, he will show us a whole new level and a legendary season. Thats the summary, paired with (claiming to at least) knowing someone close to Pogacar/the team, and from time to time sprinkling training data in the conversation (although, at times absurd values as well).

 

[RobertCrawley]

He has become a lot better after having changed trainer from that charlatan.

We’ll see. The new trainer is solid gold if Tadej stays with Jonas in the heat.

 

[RobertCrawley]

Probably. But there was a user, @mou, that emerged, calling Millan "bald fraud". And since Pogacar is not held back anymore by the bald fraud, and with Sola now, he will show us a whole new level and a legendary season. Thats the summary, paired with (claiming to at least) knowing someone close to Pogacar/the team, and from time to time sprinkling training data in the conversation (although, at times absurd values as well).

Well, I’ll need time to decide who I trust more about this: a professor of physiology at Colorado, or a guy with an internet connection. I’ll get back to you.

 

[ppanther92]

Well, I’ll need time to decide who I trust more about this: a professor of physiology at Colorado, or a guy with an internet connection. I’ll get back to you.

I have always been critical of the particular user and I am still not quite sure if we really see a whole new level or just the same as last year more or less, without the injury and on the other hand Vingegaard's problems. The Giro is no test, Pogi can any year win that by 10 minutes.

That said, @mou gained some prominence, even being quoted by Johan Bruyneel in The Move

 

[RobertCrawley]

You think Pogacar ridding with a fractured wrist hold him back last year? Vocally sat on his bike during the stages in pain he said on both rest days, body properly didnt spend any energy at all on that. 3 weeks of training and no normal altitute training aswell nothing of those things hold im back or we maybe check with the physiolog in Colorado just to be sure there too?

I really don’t know. What’s the answer?

 

[RobertCrawley]

I have always been critical of the particular user and I am still not quite sure if we really see a whole new level or just the same as last year more or less, without the injury and on the other hand Vingegaard's problems. The Giro is no test, Pogi can any year win that by 10 minutes.

That said, @mou gained some prominence, even being quoted by Johan Bruyneel in The Move

Agreed. It’s hard to gauge given the injuries to riders. There’s no doubt Tadej is in terrific form, maybe the best form of any rider in this generation. It’s entirely possible, maybe likely, that part of the reason is that the new training methods suit him better.

I don’t conclude from that that San Millán is a “fraud.” Not sure why anyone would.

 

[ppanther92]

I don’t conclude from that that San Millán is a “fraud.” Not sure why anyone would.

Lets say, the user had a specific way of communicating

 

[tobydawq]

Agreed. It’s hard to gauge given the injuries to riders. There’s no doubt Tadej is in terrific form, maybe the best form of any rider in this generation. It’s entirely possible, maybe likely, that part of the reason is that the new training methods suit him better.

I don’t conclude from that that San Millán is a “fraud.” Not sure why anyone would.

As ppanther said, he was quite direct and called people names. But he definitely had inside information. He often would say which UAE riders would go to which races even if the preliminary startlists disagreed, and voilà, when the official startlist came out, it turned out he was right.

He was definitely not just a guy with an internet connection and it's way too easy just to dismiss him as such.

He prepared us for what we're seeing now.

 

[RobertCrawley]

As ppanther said, he was quite direct and called people names. But he definitely had inside information. He often would say which UAE riders would go to which races even if the preliminary startlists disagreed, and voilà, when the official startlist came out, it turned out he was right.

He was definitely not just a guy with an internet connection and it's way too easy just to dismiss him as such.

He prepared us for what we're seeing now.

Those are all excellent credentials. I believe everything he says now.

 

[tobydawq]

Those are all excellent credentials. I believe everything he says now.

Okay...

 

[scribers]

Well, if he said it, it must be true.

There you are. The poor guy getting kicked while in the grave. He can't get an deader

 

[scribers]

Lets say, the user had a specific way of communicating

He use only cicaban luck merchant farmer language

 

[topcat]

Matxin, it's him, it's Pogi he's come home. Let him into your window.

Matxin, it's me, I'm Pogi, I've come home, I'm so cold, Let me in your window.
(The song is from 1978. Were you alive then?)

 

[scribers]

Horner with his knuckles on the Chesterfield

Like a cat, he will land on his feet for his podcast today

 

[Nomadist]

He got like 2 minutes saving 10 watts that's not a very big difference. More useful using Yates to blow up the group before he even attacked.

The only reason it "worked" is cause Vingegaard couldn't respond to the first acceleration

You crazy? Yates was going way slower than Pog was after

 

[Savant12]

This was not just about the acceleration. Vinge cannot do long efforts like the last 2 years. Thats what a lung injury does to you.

He is riding for 2nd place now.

The lung injury must have taken a break on Stage 11.

 

[Heston]

The lung injury must have taken a break on Stage 11.

There were no long efforts. It was 4 km climbs with descents in between.

 

[dazaau]

Pogi : I see your ass…Remco : I would like to see yours more… and not from 500 m distance like today

https://twitter.com/x/status/1812150715176898741

View: https://x.com/LeTour/status/1812150715176898741

 

[fbjim]

in fairness to the chips guy, in all the safety videos and tweets the tour has put out, none of them say "don't throw Lay's potato chips at the riders"

 

[Rob5091]

in fairness to the chips guy, in all the safety videos and tweets the tour has put out, none of them say "don't throw Lay's potato chips at the riders"

Well if Pogi had eaten any, he would have been done for an illegal feed!

As for racing 2 minutes faster then Armstrong up the climb, you have to remember back then they were still using wooden wheels and wearing top hats and waistcoats -