Tour de France Tour de France 2024, Stage 15 14/7 Loudenvielle-Plateau de Beille 197.7k

[Tim Cahill]

Big OTL danger today with the climb start

 

[Salvarani]

Sprinters dropping one by one

 

[snipeheem]

It's the combination of long climbs ans heat that is Pogs kryponite. The heat is on today and so os the long climbs.

Not anymore

 

[fbjim]

yeah this was always going to be one of the worst stages for a sprinter going OTL

i still think they should be OK becuase they can grupetto it up and gas it in the valley roads, but 20 might be a bigger problem if they get dropped early there

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

That scenario covers the times when Vingo was clearly having upper hand on 30+ minutes climbing effort. Is thats tha case as of now? Seems doubful or at the very least thia edge is what must be proved once again. No that what what happening in 2022-23 Tours influences this stage...

I agree but I am unsure which scenario you mean. I was just pointing out that long stage = good for Vingegaard isn't a simple equation looking at the actual stages where he made the difference.

 

[Samamba]

Evenepoel reacting to Jorgensen and Yates going

 

[Tim Cahill]

Adam Yates and Jorg trying to sneak in up front

 

[Salvarani]

Remco active. With Yates on the wheel. Pog right behind as well.

 

[Heston]

Still there is 100 km of flat valley today. The gruppetto can probably ride faster than the GC group on those parts.

Although Gaviria and Cavendish might end up behind the gruppetto.

 

[Samamba]

Fuglsang still a cyclist apparently

 

[Salvarani]

Fuglsang!

 

[danielovichdk2]

Not anymore

If you base your evidence from yesterday then I would argue that its poor. Cold weather and short final climb.

 

[fbjim]

i think people are slightly too deterministic on what is a "pogacar climb" and what is a "vingegaard climb"

 

[Tim Cahill]

Bora are lucky they never ended up in a spot where they had to control the race for GC.

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

Voight just said, he talked to Lenny Martinez manager, why he's not doing good and the explanation is:
he was supposed to be on a break from racing and not at the Tour, but than they needed a rider and asked him, and he said yes obviously. But his entire year wasn't build for this.

What nonsense to take him just to have him tag along without form.

 

[Salvarani]

UAE dont want to let Jorgenson go into the break.

 

[fbjim]

some deluxe riders going out the back with the high pace being set by the games on who gets in the break

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Not anymore

Yeah, he's been training on an inside volcanos to get rid of those flaws.

 

[Samamba]

Jorgensen wants in the break but UAE follows ofcourse

 

[Salvarani]

Yeah, they are not letting Jorgenson go.

 

[Slavique Nuke]

Voight just said, he talked to Lenny Martinez manager, why he's not doing good and the explanation is:
he was supposed to be on a break from racing and not at the Tour, but than they needed a rider and asked him, and he said yes obviously. But his entire year wasn't build for this.

What nonsense to take him just to have him tag along without form.

'If he dies, he dies' Next year he will not be their problem.

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

Yeah, he's been training on an inside volcanos to get rid of those flaws.

At the end, the inside of the vulcano had to train to withstand Pogacar's heat. It is said, so it must be true.

 

[fbjim]

Voight just said, he talked to Lenny Martinez manager, why he's not doing good and the explanation is:
he was supposed to be on a break from racing and not at the Tour, but than they needed a rider and asked him, and he said yes obviously. But his entire year wasn't build for this.

What nonsense to take him just to have him tag along without form.

didn't UAE do that with Hirschi one year?

 

[Salvarani]

Kelderman has made it to the front as well now.

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

didn't UAE do that with Hirschi one year?

Could be, I don't remember. Doesn't make it better though. I think it's a stupid idea, it's not that you gain a lot taking riders that are not on form. Only if you are really desperate.