Tour de France Tour de France 2024 stage 17: Saint-Paul-Trois-Châteaux - Superdévoluy, 177.8 km

[Didinho]

Caught myself yelling to the tv again. Glad Remco tried to follow the initial attack and went good untill the top. Gonna give him confidence to attack Vingo the next days. But longer climbs, so expecting the 2 again better than Remco.

 

[Salvarani]

Problematic for Vingegaard is that he doesn't have the kick to get separation even if he wanted to attack, so he has to do those long sustained efforts where Pogacar can sit on his wheel. Reverse of 2022.

Vinge is still cooked from stage 15 by the looks of it.

He went deep into red there and felt it today.

Without teammates here he would lose over a minute to probably both Remco and Pog.

 

[JosefK]

Good fight by Remco. Pog doing Pog stuff. Jonas didn't concede too much. Well done.

 

[jaylew]

That's honestly a possibility, at least on Friday. he's showing some worrying signs.

Yep, I think it's time to pay the bill. I would not be surprised to see him lose a bunch of time before this is over.

 

[Escarabajo]

Remco stayed too long on Hirt's wheel.

 

[Rollthedice]

Hats off to Remco. He's really riding an amazing race, far above my expectations btw

Amazing what a few kilos less can do.

 

[RobertCrawley]

Problematic for Vingegaard is that he doesn't have the kick to get separation even if he wanted to attack, so he has to do those long sustained efforts where Pogacar can sit on his wheel. Reverse of 2022.

Different body types, different strengths.

 

[BigCoward]

Vingegaard would really need to blow up on Friday and Saturday for Remco catch him on GC

He doesn't have to 'blow up.'.
He could lose 30- 40 seconds on both and the TT would be interesting.

 

[slim charles]

Good job by Remco.

Vingo seems to be fading - this is what a lot people expected, considering what he went through. Still, I think he keeps the 2nd spot even though Remco will try and possibly melt the lead a bit.

 

[Brullnux]

GC time gaps genuinely insane, the top three are within five minutes of each other, 4th to 10th is also about five minutes, but it's almost eight minutes between 3rd and 4th

 

[Stubb]

Never thought I'd see the day of remco dropping vinge on a climb. Maybe vinge should start thinking about the much disregarded second place.

 

[Eclipse]

He doesn't have to 'blow up.'.
He could lose 30- 40 seconds on both and the TT would be interesting.

Yeah, if Jonas is fading to the extent that he does lose time in the coming days you'd fancy Remco taking a good chunk in an end of race TT.

Quickstep need to be aggressively planning their options to try enable that.

 

[RedheadDane]

Why show studio before top 10 finished?!

Top-10 on the stage?
Top-10 on the stage finished before Evenepoel finished.

 

[Escarabajo]

Enric starting to find them Vuelta legs.

Looking at him throughout the years, He would benefit of going to the Giro, just like Ulrich used to do. Mas is the definition of Diesel.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Good job by Remco.

Vingo seems to be fading - this is what a lot people expected, considering what he went through. Still, I think he keeps the 2nd spot even though Remco will try and possibly melt the lead a bit.

They said Vingo was fading on Saturday but the next day he climbed ridiculous 1800+ m/h for 40+ minutes. Let's wait until the weekend with such conclusions, he may fade indeed or not.

 

[noob]

Top-10 on the stage?
Top-10 on the stage finished before Evenepoel finished.

Gc lol

 

[BubbaChuck]

pog is buttering up remco for areason.its not enough that i succeed,but other must fail,lmao.

 

[titan31]

That's honestly a possibility, at least on Friday. he's showing some worrying signs.

True, but i don't think today really matters in that regard then. If he blows, he's losing minutes on Friday. The seconds of loss today aren't going to matter at all really.

I don't really see it being a race. If he's done, he's getting dropped on Bonette or on the lower slopes of Isola and losing a ton of time. Likewise Saturday, he could lose minutes there too if he's suffering. I expect Pog is attacking anyway so Remco doesn't even need to attack, just wait for Pog to go and then see if you're stronger.

 

[yaco]

I suspect S.Yates went too early on the second last climb. he needed to follow wheels until the last two kms of the climb. EF got their tactics right as Carapaz should always be their pod for these types of stages.

 

[Squire]

Carapaz joins a list of cyclists with stage win at all grand tours and olympic gold medal.
Mind you, I don't know how long that list is...

It has two other riders on it. Ullrich and Bettini.

 

[titan31]

He doesn't have to 'blow up.'.
He could lose 30- 40 seconds on both and the TT would be interesting.

I don't see a scenario where Vingegaard is not blowing up though where he's losing time to Remco though. He's either dead on his bike like he looked today or he's not losing time.

 

[RobertCrawley]

Oh c'mon... I'm not talking about gaps. Without helpers, Vingegaard would lose a minute and you know that. I never saw Vingegaard so bad in the Tour

3 seconds?

 

[glassmoon]

Props to Remco for trying.

 

[BubbaChuck]

my lord pog is gonna nuke isola,lol.

 

[movingtarget]

Perseverance pays off for Carapaz.. Well taken win. Good ride by Yates as well. Remco got some seconds back on Vingegaard but they seem pretty even at the moment.