Tour de France Tour de France 2024 stage 17: Saint-Paul-Trois-Châteaux - Superdévoluy, 177.8 km

[Escarabajo]

Enric starting to find them Vuelta legs.

Looking at him throughout the years, He would benefit of going to the Giro, just like Ulrich used to do. Mas is the definition of Diesel.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Good job by Remco.

Vingo seems to be fading - this is what a lot people expected, considering what he went through. Still, I think he keeps the 2nd spot even though Remco will try and possibly melt the lead a bit.

They said Vingo was fading on Saturday but the next day he climbed ridiculous 1800+ m/h for 40+ minutes. Let's wait until the weekend with such conclusions, he may fade indeed or not.

 

[noob]

Top-10 on the stage?
Top-10 on the stage finished before Evenepoel finished.

Gc lol

 

[BubbaChuck]

pog is buttering up remco for areason.its not enough that i succeed,but other must fail,lmao.

 

[titan31]

That's honestly a possibility, at least on Friday. he's showing some worrying signs.

True, but i don't think today really matters in that regard then. If he blows, he's losing minutes on Friday. The seconds of loss today aren't going to matter at all really.

I don't really see it being a race. If he's done, he's getting dropped on Bonette or on the lower slopes of Isola and losing a ton of time. Likewise Saturday, he could lose minutes there too if he's suffering. I expect Pog is attacking anyway so Remco doesn't even need to attack, just wait for Pog to go and then see if you're stronger.

 

[yaco]

I suspect S.Yates went too early on the second last climb. he needed to follow wheels until the last two kms of the climb. EF got their tactics right as Carapaz should always be their pod for these types of stages.

 

[Squire]

Carapaz joins a list of cyclists with stage win at all grand tours and olympic gold medal.
Mind you, I don't know how long that list is...

It has two other riders on it. Ullrich and Bettini.

 

[titan31]

He doesn't have to 'blow up.'.
He could lose 30- 40 seconds on both and the TT would be interesting.

I don't see a scenario where Vingegaard is not blowing up though where he's losing time to Remco though. He's either dead on his bike like he looked today or he's not losing time.

 

[RobertCrawley]

Oh c'mon... I'm not talking about gaps. Without helpers, Vingegaard would lose a minute and you know that. I never saw Vingegaard so bad in the Tour

3 seconds?

 

[glassmoon]

Props to Remco for trying.

 

[BubbaChuck]

my lord pog is gonna nuke isola,lol.

 

[movingtarget]

Perseverance pays off for Carapaz.. Well taken win. Good ride by Yates as well. Remco got some seconds back on Vingegaard but they seem pretty even at the moment.

 

[Sciatic]

Not even sure why WVA is riding for Vingegaard, thought Visma didn't care about that 2nd place

They are competitors

 

[Tim Cahill]

Vingegaard, different refuelling strategy

Will be different on 19, they will try. Still lose like but they will try.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

For sure this was a mean girls setup against Vingo

Mean girls, mean girls, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do when they come for you.

 

[skippo12]

How did the group with the other GC riders lose more than two minutes in the final?

 

[BubbaChuck]

if vinge tries same tactic on isola,he will die outhere.

 

[Escarabajo]

Did Jonas have a mechanical? It looked like he stopped almost.

Correct, his legs stopped working.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Vingo will wait for Isola or will attack in Bonette?

 

[Taxus4a]

Always thanks Pogacar to be like this. amnyway he finally just took 2 second with Vibegaard in a stage where he flyes again ion the flat and the end was much better for him than for Vingegaard.

For me this is not finished yet. Of course is almost for `Poggi, but evertyhing could happend. But he has to put people on the break, but it is a pity Van Aert is not like other years.

 

[Taxus4a]

Vingo will wait for Isola or will attack in Bonette?

Bonnete is the climb, if they wait at Isola Pogacar destroy everybody

 

[scribers]

It has two other riders on it. Ullrich and Bettini.

Wiggins so close

 

[RobertCrawley]

Mean girls, mean girls, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do when they come for you.

There is a definite frat v geek feel when a lot of people talk about these two racers.

 

[red_flanders]

How did the group with the other GC riders lose more than two minutes in the final?

To quote the great Greg Lemond, “Why couldn’t I chase? I was freaking tired!”

 

[AnotherArmChair]

Vinge has said

-he cant match Pog on the accelerations
-he is not interested in 2nd and will try everything to win ( I presume including blowing up)
-his only hope is Pog has a bad day