Tour de France Tour de France 2024 stage 17: Saint-Paul-Trois-Châteaux - Superdévoluy, 177.8 km

[JosefK]

It has two other riders on it. Ullrich and Bettini.

Olympic gold in the road race, yes? Roglic has stage wins in all grand tours and an Olympic gold (TT).

 

[Sciatic]

So Teddy dropped Vingo two times and gained...whooping 2 seconds! Something was off in case of his first attack: JV had a guy to help Vingo on the descent but no UAE guy was waiting for Pog. A wasted match by Pogacar. Can't wait to the final weekend.

If illness is going around in the UAE team, I think it could be worthwhile for Pogacar to keep adding to his advantage while he still feels okay.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

How did the group with the other GC riders lose more than two minutes in the final?

The entire places 4-12 were together and so nobody had any reason to ride.

 

[Didinho]

Looked like Pogi was doubting between taking Remco with him and getting more time on Vingo.

Visma will definitely get all their riders in the break again the next days. Just in case.

 

[RobertCrawley]

Vinge has said

-he cant match Pog on the accelerations
-he is not interested in 2nd and will try everything to win ( I presume including blowing up)
-his only hope is Pog has a bad day

Jonas won't quit, as we saw today. Neither will Grischa. They'll keep trying.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Vinge has said

-he cant match Pog on the accelerations
-he is not interested in 2nd and will try everything to win ( I presume including blowing up)
-his only hope is Pog has a bad day

Then why did he and his teammates chase Evenepoel, lol.

 

[perico]

Looking at him throughout the years, He would benefit of going to the Giro, just like Ulrich used to do. Mas is the definition of Diesel.

I said it at the beginning of the season as well.

 

[Miha81]

Vinge has said

-he cant match Pog on the accelerations
-he is not interested in 2nd and will try everything to win ( I presume including blowing up)
-his only hope is Pog has a bad day

...and still they chased Remco down. Does not make sense if they don't care about 2nd place

 

[Squire]

Olympic gold in the road race, yes? Roglic has stage wins in all grand tours and an Olympic gold (TT).

Yeah, I counted only the road race. Roglic would indeed need to be added to the list if we also consider the ITT. But I see it as a bit less prestigious, just like WC RR vs ITT.

 

[pihi42]

So Teddy dropped Vingo two times and gained...whooping 2 seconds! Something was off in case of his first attack: JV had a guy to help Vingo on the descent but no UAE guy was waiting for Pog. A wasted match by Pogacar. Can't wait to the final weekend.

I think it's about who'll run out of matches sooner and when.
Teddy thinks "I burn one you burn one I burn one you burn one I burn one .. you're out" on the last climb.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

...and still they chased Remco down. Does not make sense if they don't care about 2nd place

They think 2nd is better than 3rd, but Vingegaard himself didn‘t have to do any defense against Remco today.

 

[BubbaChuck]

uae is preparing crazy trap on isola,vinge off course will go after it.it nuts how tables have turned.

 

[OJRvE]

Allowing Remco to move a lot closer to Pogačar could have been exciting, but Visma were of course not going to do that.

I mean UAE had Sivakov so he would just have pulled a steady pace and max lost 45 seconds so it would only be bad for Vingegaard second place

 

[Danskebjerge]

Finally a race-in-the-race stage. It's twice as fun when there is a battle for the stage win and after that a battle for the GC. First time this year.

 

[RobertCrawley]

Johan is grinding his teeth with this Vaughter's victory.

 

[kingjr]

Looking at him throughout the years, He would benefit of going to the Giro, just like Ulrich used to do. Mas is the definition of Diesel.

Ullrich did that two times out of nine.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

I mean UAE had Sivakov so he would just have pulled a steady pace and max lost 45 seconds so it would only be bad for Vingegaard second place

Most likely, of course, but still getting more riders involved in the GC fight would be Visma's best bet at this stage.

 

[Danskebjerge]

Norwegian media should stop sending reporters to interviews with Danes if they speak that gibberish nynorsk language. 😆

 

[AnotherArmChair]

They think 2nd is better than 3rd, but Vingegaard himself didn‘t have to do any defense against Remco today.

Yes...this

Why sit there and not have your teammates chase Remco in the final kilometres and say hey why bother ?

Doesnt mean their main attention is not on winning still and not on second

 

[Miha81]

They think 2nd is better than 3rd, but Vingegaard himself didn‘t have to do any defense against Remco today.

The way Vinge looked today they have more of a fight for 2nd than 1st on their hand. Offcourse everything can change from day to day. Still lots of hard stages this week.

 

[Unterlenkerfahrend]

Top 3 taking over 2 minutes on everyone else here in GC is a bit symptomatic for this race.

 

[Eclipse]

Looking at him throughout the years, He would benefit of going to the Giro, just like Ulrich used to do. Mas is the definition of Diesel.

Mas is the definition of superdomestique.

Forget #FreeLanda it should have been #ChainEnric

Top 3 taking over 2 minutes on everyone else here in GC is a bit symptomatic for this race.

I think this is just self fulfilling at this stage. It's a race in a race now. Nobody is going to follow when they go.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

They think 2nd is better than 3rd, but Vingegaard himself didn‘t have to do any defense against Remco today.

If they really didn't care about 2nd, then they'd let Evenepoel come as close as possible to Pogacar. Either UAE has to start wasting energy in the chase, or Evenepoel gets free seconds and comes back perhaps 2 minutes instead of 10 seconds when Pog/Vinge stay passive in the chase. Suddenly Pog has to start thinking about Evenepoel as well, which only suits Vingegaard (who supposedly only cares about winning).

So a load of crock.

 

[Tanakka]

How did the group with the other GC riders lose more than two minutes in the final?

They probably didn't care:
while 4° (Almeida) to 11° (Gall) are within 6 minutes, that is as much as Almeida was behind Remco (6 minutes; now it's 8)

They are not going to kill themselves to try to follow the Top3.
What for?

 

[perico]

Carapaz joins a list of cyclists with stage win at all grand tours and olympic gold medal.
Mind you, I don't know how long that list is...

He’s also has the TT champion of Ecuador on his resume.