Tour de France Tour de France 2024: Stage 19: Embrun - Isola 2000, 19/07 144.6k

[Scarponi]

I' ve read that in the past he had trouble getting good results also because he lacked confidence/mental strength. I wonder, seeing his state after the stage, if this is going to have negative consequences for him more mentally than physically.

They pretty much dodge each other all year too so he might not get a chance to see how he is going vs Pogacar next year until the tour

 

[titan31]

A procession would be sitting on wheels of second and third, no? You honor the sport by racing the stage. Merckx and Hinault raced this way

Very different environment when it comes to sport and entertainment now than it was 40-50 years ago. Cycling clearly has an eye on a more casual audience (hence the Netflix series) like F1 did. F1 suffered to capitalise that more than it did cos of Max and RB's dominance (this season is a lot more competitive at least). Cycling is even less friendly for casuals so having it be Pogacar turns up, he wins, is a bit damaging imo (same for the classics with what VdP does).

It's probably been one of the worst seasons for competitiveness i've seen and i'm watching it nearly 30 years. At least even in the Lance years, it was just the Tour, not multiple races being shat on by 2 riders.

 

[Andre]

You actually thought Evenepoel still had a shot at beating Pogacar going into today? That makes Abi look tame...

Yes I had fading hopes....they lied to me though, they said Tadej had the Giro on his legs and would crack

 

[BigCoward]

No longer interested in posting in the regular part of the forum. Whatever that was, it isn't something I'm interested in watching anymore.

Off you flounce.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

You can see from the pictures, that Pogacar has been on a moderately hard ride.

Solid zone 2 ride, as prescribed in the training plan.

 

[BigL]

No longer interested in posting in the regular part of the forum. [[deleted content]]

I don’t blame you. I’m slightly saddened by it too.

 

[carolina]

He should do Volta and Vuelta.

 

[Escarabajo]

Vingo very emotional. He did everything He could. I would be very happy if I was him. He exceeded all expectations for a guy who crashed in Pais Vasco. Additionally, Pogacar is the best that he'd ever been.

 

[RedheadDane]

Damn it all...another year without a Tour victory for Belgium.

A drought even longer than the French!

 

[RobertCrawley]

I' ve read that in the past he had trouble getting good results also because he lacked confidence/mental strength. I wonder, seeing his state after the stage, if this is going to have negative consequences for him more mentally than physically.

He came back from near death to be second best in the Tour. I think he'll be fine mentally and physically going forward.

 

[FrontHeadlock]

Very different environment when it comes to sport and entertainment now than it was 40-50 years ago. Cycling clearly has an eye on a more casual audience (hence the Netflix series) like F1 did. F1 suffered to capitalise that more than it did cos of Max and RB's dominance (this season is a lot more competitive at least). Cycling is even less friendly for casuals so having it be Pogacar turns up, he wins, is a bit damaging imo (same for the classics with what VdP does).

It's probably been one of the worst seasons for competitiveness i've seen and i'm watching it nearly 30 years. At least even in the Lance years, it was just the Tour, not multiple races being shat on by 2 riders.

Agreed. This is where I am.

 

[Danskebjerge]

he is far from his best lol

Vingegaard is at his best ever . If he wants to go even faster, he must adopt some of Pogacar's secret methods.

 

[Sciatic]

I have think it’s clear Pogacar has been frustrated hearing media and fans crown Vingaard as the superior rider the past two Tours when Pog knew he wasn’t at his best. He keeps hammering home how wrong everyone was.

 

[FroomeWagon]

Time to take the asterisks away from Lance's 7 TDF's, just so Pogi has something to shoot for.

 

[BubbaChuck]

training for vuelta,lol.

 

[dazaau]

As a fan you like to see the wealth spread a bit. It's one of the best things about cycling.

This was CLEARLY a very insecure performance.

I won't be surprised if he goes in a breakaway tomorrow just to win KOM too.

I you were Pog you would give up the queen stage win to the team that's smashed your dreams two years in a row?

There is nothing insecure about wanting to win. No one is on top forever.

 

[scribers]

if he wins tomorrow i'm going to really lose my ***.

Get ready right now. Because he’s going to go it all over again

 

[Samu Cuenca]

A drought even longer than the French!

But shorter than the Swiss.

 

[Danskebjerge]

I have think it’s clear Pogacar has been frustrated hearing media and fans crown Vingaard as the superior rider the past two Tours when Pog knew he wasn’t at his best. He keeps hammering home how wrong everyone was.

If it meant a lot to him, would he have ridden the Giro first?

 

[iBanesto]

Interesting to see Carlos Rodriguez finish behind Gee in this stage!

 

[RobertCrawley]

Unbeatable.

 

[Finn84]

At this point, I'm pretty sure Pogi just wants to beat Vingebot with a bigger gap than the one he lost to him last year.

2 minutes and 26 seconds behind at the moment.

 

[FrontHeadlock]

I you were Pog you would give up the queen stage win to the team that's smashed your dreams two years in a row?

This is exactly what I mean. He's won TONS in the last 2 years, including what, 5 or 6 TdF stages alone? It's okay to get beat sometimes. Winning the GC and 3 stages again is enough. This just feels personal and insecure. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he won the next two stages.

 

[Poursuivant]

I' ve read that in the past he had trouble getting good results also because he lacked confidence/mental strength. I wonder, seeing his state after the stage, if this is going to have negative consequences for him more mentally than physically.

He will be back stronger. You don’t beat Pogacar up twice at the Tour if you are mentally weak:

 

[Tim Cahill]

He should do Volta and Vuelta.

He can have as many core temperature devices as he wants, Peak-Alarcon would still cook Pogacar in his favoured 45 degree heat.